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TIP709: The Art of Long-Term Investing w/ François Rochon

2025/3/28
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Clay Fink: 本期节目邀请了投资界传奇人物François Rochon,探讨他的长期投资理念。Rochon先生自1993年创立Rochon Global Portfolio以来,其年均复合收益率(扣除费用后)达13.6%,显著高于同期标普500指数的10.6%。他坚信,长期投资成功的关键在于以合理的价格购买优秀的企业,并认为试图预测市场时机是徒劳的,股价波动对寻求超越市场的投资者来说是馈赠。我们讨论了Rochon先生撰写年度信函的原因、他对2024年的总结和经验教训、他偏好的投资组合集中度、Giverny Capital为何始终保持满仓投资以及不试图预测市场时机的原因、股权投资者需要考虑的四大关键风险、Rochon先生最近将Booking Holdings和Brown & Brown纳入其投资组合核心仓位的原因、他对Alphabet的最新看法等等。 François Rochon: 我撰写年度信函是为了像对待合作伙伴一样对待我的投资者,向他们提供我个人希望获得的信息,包括投资理由、投资组合表现以及所持公司的情况。我努力向投资者提供全面信息,内容涵盖投资组合表现、所持公司情况等,力求做到透明和坦诚。许多投资经理为了取悦客户,可能会偏离长期正确的投资策略,而我坚持与客户同舟共济,利益一致。我将投资业务视为伙伴关系,我的投资建议与自身行为一致,长期来看,这是正确的做法。2024年是股市表现良好的一年,但收益主要集中于大型公司,若非投资于这些公司,收益则相对较低。标普500指数的强劲表现主要源于少数大型科技公司的优异表现,这些公司的市盈率也处于历史高位。我的投资策略一直以来都是寻找拥有某种竞争优势的优秀公司,而不会局限于特定的行业或商业模式。投资组合中拥有20到25个公司就足够实现多元化,同时也能提高跑赢市场的概率。我从不试图预测市场时机,而是长期持有股票,这与我所学习的伟大投资者(如巴菲特、格雷厄姆等)的理念一致。我通过计算每家公司持股数量乘以每股收益来估算所有者收益,以此衡量投资组合的内在增长。回顾过往的错误,特别是那些错失良机的错误,对于提升投资能力至关重要。股权投资的风险管理应从多元化、公司质量、估值和投资者自身行为四个方面考虑,而不仅仅关注波动性。 François Rochon: Booking Holdings 是一家管理优秀的公司,其商业模式具有很强的竞争优势,并且能够适应行业变化。Brown & Brown 是一家长期稳健增长的保险经纪公司,其管理团队优秀,并且通过并购不断扩大市场份额。我对Alphabet(谷歌)的收购决策持乐观态度,相信其管理团队有能力做出正确的判断。我使用AI工具来加速信息收集,但在投资决策方面,我仍然更依赖自身判断。

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François Rochon's annual letter is more than a financial report; it's a testament to his belief in true partnership with investors. He shares detailed information about the portfolio, company performance, and his investment philosophy, mirroring the transparency he'd expect as an investor himself.
  • Rochon views his investors as partners, aligning incentives and fostering trust.
  • He prioritizes providing comprehensive information about portfolio performance and the underlying companies.
  • His approach focuses on long-term value creation and aligns his interests with those of his investors.

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On today’s episode, Clay is joined by François Rochon to discuss his long-term investing philosophy. François firmly believes that buying great businesses at fair prices is the key to success as a long-term investor. He also believes that trying to time the market is a fool’s errand and that stock price volatility is a gift to investors seeking to beat the market.

Since Francois started the Rochon Global Portfolio in 1993, he’s compounded capital at 13.6% per year on average net of fees, and the S&P 500 has compounded at 10.6%.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

01:28 - Why François spends the time to write a letter for his partners each year.

05:03 - François’s takeaways and lessons from 2024.

08:13 - The types of businesses François looks to invest in.

11:05 - How concentrated he prefers to make his fund.

13:18 - Why Giverny Capital will always remain fully invested.

29:47 - The four key risks for equity investors to consider.

40:07 - Why Francois recently made Booking Holdings and Brown & Brown core positions in his portfolio.

56:46 - Francois’s updated views on Alphabet.

And so much more!

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

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