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TIP715: Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke

2025/4/18
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Clay: 我们常常根据结果来判断决策的好坏,但这容易导致我们做出糟糕的决策,因为大多数决策都在不确定性下做出,结果受运气影响很大。单纯根据结果评价决策会阻碍学习和进步。我们需要学会将决策质量与结果分开,避免陷入“结果论”的陷阱。 我将用西雅图海鹰队超级碗比赛中教练的临场决策为例,无论结果如何,其决策质量本身都值得讨论,这说明结果不能完全决定决策的优劣。 在投资中,新手投资者容易因为短期股价波动而认为自己犯了错误,这是一种“结果论”的体现。投资中存在信息不完全性,我们无法预测所有事件,应根据已知信息做出最佳决策,避免因结果论而否定决策质量。 人们倾向于根据结果而非决策过程本身来评价决策,这体现了大脑的非理性。人类大脑倾向于寻求确定性,这让我们难以接受运气在生活中的重要作用,但在投资中,运气至关重要。在评估决策质量时,最好先忽略结果,这在扑克游戏中尤其重要,因为结果很快就能知道。 长期投资者有更多时间利用信息、寻求反馈,从而更好地运用系统2思维进行决策。承认我们不知道一切,并乐于承认“我不知道”和“我不确定”,这有助于我们成为更好的投资者,因为未来是不确定的。优秀的投资者知道,即使做出了正确的决策,也可能导致不好的结果,这很正常,不必过度自责。 所有的决策都是赌博,我们每天都在进行各种各样的“赌博”,只是形式不同而已。许多我们习以为常的“常识”其实并不准确,这说明我们的许多信念形成过程是随意且不严谨的。我们形成信念的过程并非总是先思考再相信,而是常常先相信再思考,这容易导致我们接受错误信息。 Robert Leonard: 新手投资者容易因为短期股价波动而认为自己犯了错误,这是一种“结果论”的体现。投资中存在信息不完全性,我们无法预测所有事件,应根据已知信息做出最佳决策,避免因结果论而否定决策质量。

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In this episode, Clay explores the book Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke, a guide to making better decisions under uncertainty.

Drawing from her career as a professional poker player, Annie shares how to separate decision quality from outcomes and avoid the trap of “resulting.” Clay also discusses how our brains are wired for certainty, why embracing probabilistic thinking leads to better outcomes, and the value of building a truth-seeking support system. Additionally, he uncovers tools like backcasting, premortems, and kill criteria to improve long-term decision-making as investors.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

01:36 - What it means to “think in bets” and how poker can sharpen decision-making.

05:57 - The concept of “resulting” and how it distorts our ability to evaluate decisions.

08:17 - Why good decisions can still lead to bad outcomes—and vice versa.

09:41 - The role of System 1 vs. System 2 thinking in making better choices.

10:44 - How investing parallels poker with incomplete information and uncertainty.

26:29 - How to build a feedback loop that separates luck from skill.

34:03 - The importance of building a truth-seeking group or “buddy system.”

35:02 - The dangers of confirmation bias and how beliefs are often formed by default.

52:54 - How backcasting and premortems can help map out future decisions.

57:16 - The power of setting kill criteria to avoid emotional decision-making.

And so much more!

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

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