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Katherine Boyle: How Tech Can Rebuild America

2025/6/30
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Katherine Boyle: 我认为一个社会如果试图完全消除痛苦,实际上会阻碍人们的成长。科技在其中扮演着复杂的角色,虽然科技的目的是消除摩擦,创造一个无摩擦的社会,但痛苦是人类与生俱来的,它赋予我们性格和韧性。如果一个人的童年和青春期都在试图消除任何形式的痛苦和人性的自然体验,那么这个人就无法真正成长,会停留在孩子的状态。这导致了许多人在20多岁时仍然表现得像孩子一样,整个社会也把30岁的人当作孩子来对待。因此,我们需要重新审视痛苦的价值,以及如何在科技发展的过程中保持人类的韧性。

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This chapter explores the decline in public service, starting from 1973 with the end of the draft, and examines its impact on American institutions. It discusses the shift in societal priorities and the subsequent talent drain from government, highlighting the need to address this multi-decade issue.
  • End of the draft in 1973 marked a symbolic shift away from mandatory national service.
  • Subsequent decades saw a talent drain from government to other sectors like finance and tech.
  • The crisis of the bureaucracy is a multi-decade problem finally receiving attention.
  • The shift is partially due to a change in perception of the value and elite status of public service.

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Why does seriousness feel radical today? a16z General Partner Katherine Boyle joins *The LaBossiere Podcast *to explore what it means to build for the national interest—and why that starts with purpose.

Katherine, part of the American Dynamism team at a16z, shares how we got to a place where public service became uncool, how tech can help rebuild trust in government, and why suffering, friction, and responsibility are essential ingredients for growth. From the collapse of civic duty to the rise of meme-driven politics, they dig into the cultural forces shaping America—and the opportunity to reclaim a sense of mission.

They also discuss why Silicon Valley is more idea than place, what journalists and investors have in common, and why being laughed at might be the clearest sign you’re on the right path.

**Timecodes: **

0:00 - Intro

4:48 The Decline in Public Service

7:47 Making Government Cool Again

10:07 Silicon Valley’s Aversion to National Security

13:15 Positive Sum vs Zero Sum Cultures

16:27 China, Authoritarianism, and Doing Hard Things

19:27 What Makes America Special?

23:03 Silicon Valley and the “Real Economy”

26:28 Investing in Mature Markets

29:08 Vanna White and The Wheel of Fortune

30:27 Journalism and Loneliness

32:52 - Time and Suffering

38:10 - Seriousness and Purpose

41:11 - Is Culture Downstream of Technology?

42:48 - Propaganda and Coolness as a Strategic Asset

44:40 - Florida, Texas, and Regulatory Arbitrage

47:51 - DC, Silicon Valley, and Florida

50:20 - What Should More People Be Thinking About

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