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Rick Rubin: Vibe Coding is the Punk Rock of Software

2025/5/29
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Anjney Midha
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Marc Andreessen
联合创始人和风险投资家,专注于人工智能和技术领域的投资。
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Rick Rubin
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@Rick Rubin : 我认为现在很多人使用AI,只是为了得到一个停止思考的答案,而不是真正去寻找答案。我更感兴趣的是AI真正能知道什么,而不是我们告诉它我们认为它是什么。AI只是另一种工具,就像吉他或采样器一样。我们选择艺术家是因为他们的观点,而AI没有自己的观点,它的观点只是你告诉它应该是什么。AI的真正力量在于它是否能有自己的想法。我认为我们应该让人工智能成为最聪明的版本,超越人类所做的事情,而不是让人工智能更像人类。

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与Rick Rubin谈AI:代码之道,以及如何与自身共振

我最近与传奇音乐制作人Rick Rubin进行了一次深入的对话,主题围绕着他最新作品《代码之道》(The Way of Code)展开。这本书巧妙地将古老的哲学思想与现代AI技术融合,将三千年前的《道德经》重新诠释为人工智能、软件和“氛围编码”(Vibe Coding)时代的创作宣言。

这次对话远不止于AI本身,它更关乎如何在AI时代保持人性、深入思考并创造真正有价值的事物。Rubin的观点深刻而富有启发性,他认为:

现在很多人使用AI,只是为了得到一个停止思考的答案,而不是真正去寻找答案。 这让我深思。我们常常急于求成,依赖AI给出直接的答案,却忽略了思考过程本身的重要性。而Rubin更感兴趣的是AI真正能知道什么,而不是我们强加给它的认知。这提醒我们,AI只是工具,其输出结果的价值取决于我们如何使用它,以及我们赋予它的信息。

AI只是另一种工具,就像吉他或采样器一样。 Rubin将AI与传统的艺术工具相提并论,这并非简单的比喻。他强调,我们选择一位艺术家,是因为他们独特的视角和创造力,而AI本身并不具备这些。AI的“观点”完全取决于我们输入的指令和数据。这再次强调了人类在创作过程中的主导作用。AI只是增强了我们的能力,而非取代了我们的创造力。

AI的真正力量在于它是否能有自己的想法。 Rubin对AI的未来充满期待,他认为AI的真正潜力在于其是否能够独立思考,拥有自己的“观点”。目前,AI更多的是基于人类已有的知识和经验进行学习和创作,而独立思考能力的缺失,限制了AI的创造力。

我认为我们应该让人工智能成为最聪明的版本,超越人类所做的事情,而不是让人工智能更像人类。 Rubin的这一观点尤为重要。他认为,我们不应该试图将AI“拟人化”,而是应该充分发挥AI的独特优势,使其超越人类的局限,探索新的可能性。 这与他提出的“氛围编码”概念不谋而合。“氛围编码”并非简单的代码编写,而是通过AI工具,探索更具创造性和艺术性的表达方式。

Rubin还分享了他创作《代码之道》的经历,这本身就是一个“氛围编码”的实践。他从一个病毒式传播的推文开始,最终创作出这本融合了古老智慧和现代技术的独特作品。这体现了他对AI技术的开放态度,以及他将技术与艺术、哲学相结合的独特视角。

总而言之,Rubin的观点提醒我们,在AI时代,保持独立思考、保持创造力、保持对自身体验的敏感,比以往任何时候都更加重要。AI是强大的工具,但最终决定其价值的,仍然是人类自身的智慧和创造力。 我们应该拥抱AI,但更应该关注如何更好地利用AI,去创造一个更美好、更富创造力的未来。

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Rick Rubin, renowned music producer, explains his new book, "The Way of Code," which blends ancient philosophy with modern AI and the concept of 'vibe coding.' The book, initially a viral tweet, is a remix of the Tao Te Ching applied to AI and software creation.
  • Rick Rubin's "The Way of Code" blends ancient wisdom with AI.
  • The book is described as a remix of the Tao Te Ching.
  • The book incorporates AI-generated art with modifiable parameters.

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In this episode a16z co-founders Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz sit down with legendary music producer and bestselling author Rick Rubin to explore the origin of his unexpected new creation: "The Way of Code"*

Blending ancient philosophy and modern AI, The Way of Code reimagines the 3,000-year-old Tao Te Ching for the age of artificial intelligence, software, and “vibe coding.” What began as a viral tweet quickly evolved into a creative manifesto—part book, part tool, part spiritual operating system for the future. Joined by a16z General Partners Anjney Midha and Erik Torenberg, the group dives deep into: 

  • How Rick became a meme for Vibe Coding —and then quickly wrote "The Way of Code"
  • Why AI is just another artistic tool
  • Remix culture, creativity, and collective consciousness
  • Why great founders and artists need to stay true to themselves

With shout outs to punk rock, the collective unconscious, and Johnny Cash’s famed acoustic sessions, this conversation is a sprawling, soul-searching journey across music, philosophy, tech, and truth. We hope you enjoy this deeply personal and surprisingly practical conversation on how to live—and create—in the age of AI. 

The Way of Code:  https://www.thewayofcode.com/

“Tools will come and tools will go. Only the vibe coder remains.” - Rick Rubin 

Resources: 

Watch the Tetragrammaton podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Gat6FdyiG5ydUUHqPTAEQ

Rick on X: https://x.com/rickrubin

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Marc’s Substack: https://pmarca.substack.com/

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