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Julia Louis-Dreyfus on doing death, truth-telling in comedy and getting wiser (from On with Kara Swisher)

2024/12/24
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Julia Louis-Dreyfus: 我创建播客"比我更睿智"的初衷是为了倾听70岁以上女性的声音,她们的声音在媒体中常常被忽视。我选择播客这种形式是因为它能促进深入、轻松的对话,避免了传统电视节目中化妆和观众带来的压力。我选择采访对象和话题的标准是基于女性自身的人生经历,并围绕一些核心议题展开深入探讨,例如:失去、野心、以及她们对21岁时的自己想说些什么。 与伊莎贝尔·阿连德的访谈让我印象深刻,她对生活的热情和对年龄的积极态度让我感触良多。我认为女性随着年龄增长会变得更激进,因为她们摆脱了社会对女性的刻板印象和期望。与这些女性的对话促使我反思并分享自己更私人的一面,这改变了我一贯的私密作风。我认为应对人生困境的关键在于人际连接,而当今社会的孤立感正在对人们造成负面影响。 我出演电影《星期二》是因为我被影片中关于亲子关系、悲伤、死亡和接受等主题所吸引。我出演《星期二》是因为我对亲子关系的强烈共鸣,以及对死亡和悲伤的深刻理解。电影《星期二》中母女关系的转变是影片的核心,母亲最终学会以一种更健康的方式去面对死亡和亲子关系。 我所扮演的三个标志性角色都体现了深刻的挫败感,而这种挫败感也驱动着我的表演。我认为现在是喜剧创作的黄金时代,因为有许多值得讽刺和探讨的社会议题。我认为《宋飞正传》经久不衰的原因在于它反映了普世的人性,而非昙花一现的流行文化现象。我担心艺术作品的商业化趋势,这可能会扼杀非主流艺术作品的创作空间。我喜欢担任制片人,因为这让我对作品有更多掌控权,但我并不热衷于建立大型的制作公司。我积极参与政治活动,特别关注地方选举,我认为这是维护民主的重要途径。我认为人生的意义在于我的两个儿子成为善良的人和负责任的公民。 Kara Swisher: (问题和引导性发言,例如对JLD访谈内容的回应和总结)

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Why did Julia Louis-Dreyfus decide to create her podcast 'Wiser Than Me'?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus created 'Wiser Than Me' after watching Jane Fonda's documentary and realizing the lack of representation of older women's voices. She wanted to create a platform to hear from and learn from women over 70.

Why does Julia Louis-Dreyfus think comedy is risky but still possible today?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus believes that comedy is risky and can be offensive, but that's what makes it enjoyable. She thinks that physical comedy, intellectual comedy, and political comedy have never been more interesting because there's so much to work with, and the current political and social climate provides rich material.

What is the central theme of Julia Louis-Dreyfus's film 'Tuesday'?

The central theme of 'Tuesday' is the exploration of the parent-child bond, grief, loss, death, and acceptance. The film uses a surreal and metaphorical approach to delve into these profound and universal human experiences.

Why does Julia Louis-Dreyfus think 'Seinfeld' holds up and continues to resonate with younger generations?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus believes 'Seinfeld' holds up because it speaks to universal truths and the human condition. The show's humor is not fad-ish and is undeniably funny, making it a classic that will always be relevant.

What concerns does Julia Louis-Dreyfus have about the commercialization of art films?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is concerned about the corporatization of arts, particularly the increasing layers of executives involved in the production process. She worries that this could stifle good, unconventional art and limit the creation of innovative and meaningful films.

Why does Julia Louis-Dreyfus prefer to take on projects on a case-by-case basis rather than running a production company?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus prefers to take on projects on a case-by-case basis because she doesn't want the headache of managing a production company. She finds it too much of a burden and prefers to focus on specific projects that excite her.

What is Julia Louis-Dreyfus's political involvement, and why does she focus on down-ballot races?

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is politically involved, particularly in down-ballot races, which she sees as a lifeline to saving democracy. She believes that these smaller races are crucial and often overlooked but play a significant role in the political landscape.

What does Julia Louis-Dreyfus think about the afterlife, as reflected in the film 'Tuesday'?

In 'Tuesday', the bird says, 'This is Tuesday's afterlife. How you live it is how.' Julia Louis-Dreyfus's personal view is that her legacy or 'echo' is her two boys and their development into good human beings and citizens.

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Julia Louis-Dreyfus discusses her podcast, Wiser Than Me, which features in-depth conversations with women over 70. The podcast was born from a desire to hear from older women and has become unexpectedly popular. She talks about her interview process, the themes that emerge, and how these conversations have radicalized her.
  • Podcast 'Wiser Than Me' interviews women over 70
  • Inspired by the Jane Fonda documentary
  • Focuses on themes like loss, ambition, aging
  • Julia Louis-Dreyfus was surprised by the podcast's popularity

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Actor Julia Louis-Dreyfus is most famous for her comedic TV characters Elaine Benes in Seinfeld and Selina Meyer in Veep. But in recent years, she's been showing her dramatic chops, including in her latest film, Tuesday, in which she takes on grief, denial and death. She's also been winning awards as the host of her podcast Wiser Than Me. In this episode from On with Kara Swisher, Kara and Julia discuss how in-depth conversations with iconic older women have radicalized her, her concerns about the commercialization of art films and why she thinks comedy is risky — but still very much possible.

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