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Shonda Rhimes on saying yes to what scares you

2025/4/22
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Shonda Rhimes: 我是一位讲故事的人，我的目标是通过大胆的娱乐方式讲述故事，并庆祝每个人。我童年时期的梦想是成为Toni Morrison 那样的作家。我的职业生涯早期经历了很长时间的摸索，直到进入电影学校后才找到方向。我的第一个剧本被卖出后，我得以留在好莱坞继续我的写作事业。我的剧集《实习医生格蕾》意外地鼓励了许多年轻女性投身科学和医学领域。这部剧集在当时具有开创性意义，因为它展现了不同于以往的女性和少数族裔角色。在创作《实习医生格蕾》的过程中，由于缺乏经验，我创造了自己的规则，并坚持自己的创作理念。我学会了说“不”，这与好莱坞普遍的“唯利是图”文化形成了对比。我学会了巧妙地应对不公平的对待，并坚持自己的立场。我曾经总是说“不”，直到我意识到自己应该尝试更多，并开始对那些让我害怕的事情说“是”。我尝试了一整年都对那些让我害怕的事情说“是”，这彻底改变了我。去做那些让你害怕的事情能够克服恐惧。积极面对艰难的对话能够带来内心的平静。在职业生涯早期，我更多地说“不”是为了保护自己和自己的创作。我的书并非单纯地鼓励说“是”或说“不”，而是要学会区分并做出正确的选择。我选择接受那些让我兴奋或能有所贡献的事情。拥有独特的才能并将其贡献于有意义的事情至关重要。我从不接受自己不想做的事情。奥普拉的评价让我意识到自己应该享受成功。随着经验的积累，我学会了欣赏自己的作品并从中获得乐趣。我将早期的创作失败视为学习经验，并以此调整方向。我将创作过程中的挫折视为反馈，并根据反馈调整方向。我坚信没有克服不了的障碍，总有其他的方法。我选择转向流媒体平台，是因为我认为这是电视行业创新的方向。我选择转向流媒体平台是因为在传统电视行业，我已经掌握了足够的经验，不再有新的学习机会。我的经纪人起初认为我转向流媒体平台的决定很疯狂，但最终还是帮助我达成了协议。我现在努力学习如何更好地理解员工的需求。我努力学习如何更好地理解员工的需求，并尝试与他们建立更紧密的联系。 Adam Grant: Shonda Rhimes 通过创作改变了人们对电视节目的观看体验，并为观众带来了许多快乐的时刻。Shonda Rhimes 通过不断重塑自我和创作方式，改变了电视节目的讲述方式。内向型领导者在团队积极主动的情况下更有效率。Shonda Rhimes 擅长指导高管如何评价和反馈创意工作。Shonda Rhimes 的失败很少被大众所知。Shonda Rhimes 勇于追随自己的兴趣和目标，而非盲目遵循他人的建议。领导者应该勇于追随自己的目标，而非仅仅停留在舒适区。Shonda Rhimes 从《丑闻》中提取危机管理经验。在危机管理中，及时沟通比隐瞒信息更重要。Shonda Rhimes 的团队善于创新，并创造性地将品牌与商业结合。领导者需要具备讲故事的能力，才能更好地沟通和表达。Shonda Rhimes 分享了她得到的最好和最坏的职业建议。

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Adam Grant opens the conversation by acknowledging Shonda Rhimes' significant cultural impact, highlighting her role in creating joyful moments for viewers globally. Shonda describes herself as a storyteller, emphasizing her aim to reflect life and humanity through her work. The discussion then shifts to her childhood aspirations and how her initial career path led to her becoming a successful TV show creator.
  • Shonda Rhimes' impact on global culture and joy creation
  • Her self-identification as a storyteller
  • The unintentional impact of Grey's Anatomy on inspiring young women to pursue science and medicine
  • The revolutionary nature of Grey's Anatomy's representation of women and people of color on television

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Shonda Rhimes is the revolutionary creator, writer, and executive producer behind so many groundbreaking TV shows—from Grey’s Anatomy and Scandal to Bridgerton and How To Get Away With Murder. Her work has changed the way stories are told on TV and the lives of viewers who see themselves represented on the screen for the first time. Shonda and Adam sit down for a live conversation at BetterUp’s Uplift Summit to discuss the moments that shaped Shonda’s success, what it takes to make bold moves, and the lessons from Shonda’s memoir *Year of Yes. *They also compare notes on the shared traits of great leaders and storytellers, and Shonda weighs in on what makes a pitch compelling.

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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant) | LinkedIn: @adammgrant) | Website: adamgrant.net/))

Guest: Shonda Rhimes (Instagram: @shondarhimes) | TikTok: @shonarhimes)) 

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