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Why AI image editing isn’t “just like Photoshop”

2024/9/12
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Decoder with Nilay Patel
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以尖锐评论和分析大科技公司和政治人物而闻名的《The Verge》编辑总监。
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Nilay Patel认为AI图像编辑技术可能彻底改变我们与摄影的文化关系，特别是我们本能地信任照片反映真实程度的方面。他指出人们常说AI图像编辑就像Photoshop，但这忽略了AI图像编辑工具带来的规模问题。他认为人们将AI图像编辑比作Photoshop是为了淡化AI工具已经造成的新的问题，并使其看起来已被解决或不值得考虑。他还指出，人们对社交媒体上经过滤镜和编辑的照片的适应，导致了人们对自身形象的担忧和心理健康问题，而AI图像编辑工具可能会加剧这一问题。最后，他认为立法可以解决AI图像编辑工具带来的问题，但立法过程缓慢且复杂，需要解决速度和定义“深度伪造”的问题。 Jess Weatherbed认为Photoshop长期以来可以进行图像编辑，但AI图像编辑工具带来的规模性问题是其与Photoshop的主要区别。她指出AI图像编辑工具的易访问性和低成本消除了许多技能和经济障碍，使普通人也能轻松创建逼真的图像。她还指出AI图像生成工具几乎没有限制，可以生成任何用户想象的内容，这导致了滥用和恶意用途的可能性增加。她认为AI图像编辑与Photoshop的主要区别在于其易访问性和规模性，AI图像编辑工具的易访问性使得人们更容易进行图像操纵，即使只是为了开玩笑。她还指出，人们已经适应了社交媒体上经过编辑的图像，但这种适应并不一定是有益的。她认为目前的技术解决方案不足以应对AI图像编辑工具带来的问题，需要更有效的措施来解决这个问题。她还指出，即使可以对AI编辑的图像进行标记，恶意行为者也可以轻松删除或绕过这些标记。最后，她认为AI图像编辑工具既带来了问题，也带来了价值，需要权衡利弊，AI图像编辑工具的应用广泛，即使禁止其存在也难以实现。

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The podcast explores the argument that AI image editing is just like Photoshop, discussing the differences and similarities between the two technologies.
  • AI image editing can create photorealistic images from chatbot prompts, potentially resetting cultural trust in photography.
  • The debate over image editing and photo truth has existed since photography's inception, particularly with digital tools.
  • AI tools are different due to their accessibility and scale, making sophisticated image manipulation instantly available to everyone.

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We’ve been covering the rise of AI image editing very closely here on Decoder and at The Verge for several years now — the ability to create photorealistic images with nothing more than a chatbot prompt could completely reset our cultural relationship to photography. But one argument keeps cropping up in response. You’ve heard it a million times, and it’s when people say “it’s just like Photoshop,” with “Photoshop” standing in for the concept of image editing generally. 

So today, we’re trying to understand exactly what it means, and why our new world of AI image tools is different — and yes, in some cases the same. Verge reporter Jess Weatherbed recently dove into this for us, and I asked her to join me in going through the debate and the arguments one by one to help figure it out.

**Links: **

  • You’re here because you said AI image editing was just like Photoshop | The Verge)

  • No one’s ready for this | The Verge)

  • The AI photo editing era is here, and it’s every person for themselves | The Verge)

  • Google’s AI ‘Reimagine’ tool helped us add disasters and corpses to photos | The Verge)

  • X’s new AI image generator will make Taylor Swift in lingerie and Kamala Harris with a gun | The Verge)

  • Grok will make gory images — just tell it you're a cop. | The Verge)

  • Leica launches first camera with Content Credentials | Content Authenticity Initiative)

  • You can use AI to get rid of Samsung’s AI watermark | The Verge)

  • Spurred by teen girls, states move to nan deepfake nudes | NYT)

  • Florida teens arrested for creating ‘deepfake’ AI nude images of classmates | The Verge)

**Credits: **

Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Callie Wright. Our supervising producer is Liam James.

The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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