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Episode 53: Flaneur | 带你在曼谷逛最国际、最本土、最自然的街

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伍陆柒
景璐
翔仔
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翔仔:曼谷是一个充满活力和多元化的城市,既有国际化大都市的繁华,也有本土文化的独特魅力。其商业模式既能吸引国际大牌,又能孵化本土品牌,体现了国际化与本土化的成功融合。 曼谷的商业空间设计注重体验感,善于利用公共空间,例如楼梯、坡道等,创造出丰富的视觉效果和探索欲,让人们在购物的同时享受乐趣。 泰国人对自然与建筑的融合有独特的理解,这与佛教信仰有关。建筑与自然和谐共生,体现了天人合一的理念。 曼谷的交通系统相对完善,轻轨和出租车方便快捷,但步行体验不佳。 伍陆柒:曼谷是一个“拼贴城市”,将各种元素(宗教、购物中心、高架道路、小空间等)融合在一起,形成独特的城市景观。 曼谷的商场设计注重空间体验,将街区搬进商场内部,创造出琳琅满目的购物环境,激发人们的探索欲。 泰国商业的成功与低人力成本和土地成本有关,这使得他们能够将更多精力投入到设计和运营中。 日本对泰国经济、政治、文化和商业都有深远的影响,这体现在商业模式、建筑风格和消费习惯等方面。 曼谷的贫富差距较大,普通人的生活状态还有待进一步了解。 景璐:The Commons Thonglor 项目体现了曼谷社区商业的活力和可持续性,但其主要服务对象是富人和游客。 曼谷的公共空间设计注重人与自然的和谐,例如空中花园的设计,体现了泰国人对自然的尊重和热爱。 曼谷的餐饮业发达,这与泰国人的生活习惯和低人力成本有关。 曼谷的交通系统相对完善,但市政投入不足,公共交通工具相对陈旧。

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Why is Bangkok considered a 'colorful' and 'chaotic' city?

Bangkok is often described as colorful and chaotic due to its vibrant use of colors, high density of buildings, and a mix of modern and traditional elements. The city's streets are filled with a blend of old and new, with small houses nestled among skyscrapers, and a lively atmosphere that engages all five senses. The city's layout and architecture reflect a 'collage city' concept, where diverse elements coexist without strict order, creating a direct and intense sensory experience.

What makes the commercial spaces in Bangkok unique compared to other cities?

Bangkok's commercial spaces are unique because they often blend indoor and outdoor elements, creating a sense of exploration and discovery. Projects like The Commons and ICONSIAM feature large staircases, open spaces, and natural elements like trees and gardens, which encourage people to wander and engage with the environment. Additionally, the city's commercial spaces often incorporate traditional Thai elements, such as street-like layouts within malls, offering a shopping experience that feels more like wandering through a lively market than a typical mall.

How does Buddhism influence the relationship between nature and man-made structures in Bangkok?

Buddhism deeply influences how Bangkok integrates nature into its architecture. Many Thais practice Buddhism, which emphasizes harmony with nature, and this is reflected in the city's design. Buildings often incorporate large gardens, trees, and natural elements, creating a sense of 'heaven on earth.' For example, the Marche Thonglor project features a seven-story building with a massive garden and a 'crack' in the structure that evokes an ancient wonder. This integration of nature and architecture is a key aspect of Thai design, driven by religious and cultural values.

What role does Japan play in Bangkok's economic and cultural landscape?

Japan has had a significant impact on Bangkok's economy, culture, and commercial development. Historically, Japan and Thailand have had strong ties, especially during and after World War II. Japanese influence is evident in Bangkok's car industry, where Japanese brands like Toyota dominate the market, and in the city's commercial culture, which draws heavily from Japanese business practices. Additionally, many advertisements in Bangkok are in Japanese, targeting Japanese expatriates and tourists, and there are numerous Japanese-themed businesses, including restaurants, massage parlors, and nightclubs.

What is the local lifestyle like in Bangkok, particularly regarding housing and transportation?

In Bangkok, locals live in a variety of housing types, from high-rise apartments to small townhouses and standalone homes. Many people rent due to the high cost of buying property. The city's transportation system is dominated by cars and motorcycles, as walking and cycling are less common due to narrow sidewalks and hot weather. The public transit system, including the BTS Skytrain and MRT subway, is extensive but expensive, primarily serving tourists and wealthier locals. The city's layout often mixes luxurious developments with poorer areas, creating a stark contrast between wealth and poverty.

How does Bangkok's food culture reflect its economic and social structure?

Bangkok's food culture is deeply tied to its agricultural and service-based economy. Many Thais do not cook at home due to the lack of gas connections in houses, leading to a thriving street food and restaurant scene. This has made Bangkok's food culture incredibly diverse and accessible, with affordable options like street stalls and markets alongside high-end dining. The city's food industry also provides employment opportunities for many locals, who often turn to cooking or selling food as a way to make a living.

What are the key characteristics of Bangkok's shopping malls, and how do they differ from traditional malls?

Bangkok's shopping malls, like ICONSIAM and EmSphere, are designed to mimic the experience of wandering through a bustling street or market. They often feature multi-level layouts with high ceilings, natural light, and open spaces that encourage exploration. For example, ICONSIAM's lower levels resemble a traditional Thai market, complete with water features and small shops, while EmSphere has different 'streets' on each floor, including a nightlife zone. This design approach reflects the Thai love for street-style shopping and creates a lively, immersive experience for visitors.

Chapters
三位嘉宾分享了初到曼谷的直观感受,曼谷集多彩、杂乱、高密度、热带休闲等多种标签于一体,是一个充满冲击力的城市,五感都被完全打开。
  • 曼谷是一个能找到各种各样标签的城市
  • 城市的形态既有色彩斑斓的活力,也有高楼林立的密集
  • 多种城市形态交织在一起,带来强烈的感官冲击

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简介:

总说泰国商业很创新、很有趣,于是十二月我和几位朋友前往曼谷进行四天的考察。说是考察,但商业考察不就是(带着脑子去)逛街吗?哈哈哈。曼谷是热情的、明丽的、嘈杂的、粗犷的、浓烈的,我们的五感被完全打开,声色气味触感,无孔不入。 曼谷的商业也沿袭了这些要素,一方面它十分的国际化,一方面它又扎根本土。在国内看来的很多创新手法,去到当地就会理解,其实只是把当地人的生活充分融入到设计里去,紧紧地把人和自然联系在一起。

本期嘉宾:翔仔、伍陆柒

本期提到的话题有:

  • 泰国商业很“好逛”的原因是什么?

  • “非标商业”是个伪命题,个性化是泰国的常态

  • 宗教信仰影响了自然和人造物的关系,也体现在城市空间特征上

  • 泰国的餐饮为什么这么发达?

  • 日本对泰国经济、政治、文化、商业的影响

  • 曼谷的房价大概是多少?本地人都住什么样的房子?

  • 曼谷当地人的生活状态是怎么样的

  • 曼谷的公共交通系统

本期提到的项目: The Commons Thonglor:富人区的社区商业)

powwowwow bkk:微型临时商业建筑)

Marche Thonglor:螺旋上升的绿植峡谷)

The Commons Saladaeng)

Galile Oasis:老旧社区里的艺术聚落)

Oasis Hotel:一个典型的新加坡绿植塔楼)

ICONSIAM:在豪华商场里逛城隍庙)

EmSphere:把街搬进商场的每一层)

One Bangkok:一个不是很泰国的项目)

Hong Sieng Kong:200年老屋中的咖啡馆)

Jim Thompson House Museum:美丽的居所,美丽的丝巾)

曼谷中国城的民居让人想到广州

曼谷的轻轨系统 MTR 和BTS

Mae Varee:好吃的芒果糯米饭)

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「所建所闻」节目迎来六周年了! 趁此机会做一些内容聚焦,未来将主要分为四个部分:

1. Builder:采访最近新落成项目的设计师 如 ep14-阿里巴巴西溪园区,ep31-杭州天目里,ep52-阿里巴巴上海园区

2. Creator:采访设计背景的创业者/空间运营者 如 ep38-家具品牌Donxi,ep48-尤扬:从设计到媒体到开餐厅

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4. Observer:其他当时当下关注的话题 如 ep29/32-历史保护,ep22-防疫建筑,ep34-奥运遗产建设,ep43/44-公共空间,ep51-迪士尼

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