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cover of episode From "Everything Bubble" To "Everything Bust"? Michael Howell on Liquidity In 2025 & Beyond

From "Everything Bubble" To "Everything Bust"? Michael Howell on Liquidity In 2025 & Beyond

2024/12/23
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Michael Howell: 2025年全球流动性将增加,但增长的动能正在减弱,预计在2025年末或2026年初见顶。 美国方面,美联储和财政部的流动性刺激措施正在减少,2025年中期开始,巨额债务到期需要再融资,这将消耗大量市场流动性。 中国经济和金融形势令人担忧,中国债券市场的剧烈波动预示着潜在风险。 全球流动性指数包含三个因素:央行流动性、私营部门流动性以及跨境流动性。目前央行流动性环境较为宽松,但私营部门流动性存在不确定性。 债务与GDP比率并非衡量经济健康状况的最佳指标,债务与流动性比率更重要。在高负债环境下,关键在于债务的再融资能力,而这取决于金融体系的资产负债表规模和流动性。 美元强势对全球经济构成负面影响,可能导致其他国家央行收紧货币政策,从而减少全球流动性。 中国经济面临债务通缩风险,需要通过货币化来解决问题,这可能导致人民币贬值,甚至可能相对于黄金贬值。 长期来看,全球流动性将增加,投资者需要持有货币通胀对冲资产,例如黄金或比特币。 目前市场环境总体良好,但风险正在增加,建议投资者谨慎乐观。 美联储可能需要停止量化紧缩并开始量化宽松,以应对市场流动性不足的问题。 金融危机通常是债务再融资危机,这会导致资产价格大幅下跌,最终需要央行注入更多流动性来解决。 Jack Farley: 对Michael Howell关于全球流动性及其对风险资产影响的观点进行了总结和提问。 探讨了流动性的多种含义,以及作者如何通过央行流动性、私营部门流动性和跨境流动性三个方面来衡量全球流动性。 提出了美国企业信贷宽松的原因,以及未来债务再融资需求对流动性的影响。 讨论了美联储的货币政策,以及其对市场流动性的影响。 探讨了中国经济和金融系统面临的风险,以及中国央行政策对全球经济的影响。 对“一切崩盘”情景进行了讨论,以及如何通过债务与流动性比率来衡量市场风险。 对作者关于风险资产(如股票和比特币)未来走势的观点进行了总结和提问。 讨论了美元强势对全球经济的影响,以及作者对美元未来走势的判断。 探讨了新兴市场股票的投资价值。

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Why does Michael Howell expect the liquidity cycle to peak in late 2025 or early 2026?

The liquidity cycle is expected to peak due to a combination of factors, including the slowing momentum of liquidity from the US Federal Reserve and Treasury, the maturity wall of debt from the COVID-19 emergency needing refinancing, and the challenges posed by the Chinese economy and bond market.

What are the three main sources of global liquidity according to Michael Howell?

The three main sources of global liquidity are central bank liquidity, private sector liquidity, and cross-border liquidity.

How has the US Federal Reserve's liquidity impact been described by Michael Howell?

The Federal Reserve's liquidity impact has been described as 'not QEQE' and 'not yield curve control, yield curve control,' which have been hidden forms of stimulus adding up to several trillion dollars.

What is the significance of the Chinese bond market according to Michael Howell?

The Chinese bond market is considered the most important in the world due to China's large economic footprint and its integration with global trade. Its instability can have a significant impact on global liquidity and economic conditions.

What does Michael Howell suggest about the future of Bitcoin?

Michael Howell suggests that Bitcoin should be bought on dips as it is a global inflation hedge and a monetary hedge against uncertainty and monetization. He believes it will continue to rise in the long term.

Why does Michael Howell believe the US dollar is strong?

The US dollar is strong due to a combination of factors, including capital inflows into US assets, the Federal Reserve's loose policies, and the Treasury's funding strategies, which have created a strong dollar exceptionalism.

What is the 'debt maturity wall' that Michael Howell mentions?

The 'debt maturity wall' refers to the significant amount of debt that was taken on during the COVID-19 emergency and is now coming due for refinancing, which will require a large amount of liquidity.

How does Michael Howell view the current phase of the market cycle?

Michael Howell views the current phase as the calm phase of the market cycle, but he warns that the market is nearing the end of this phase and could move into turbulence if liquidity momentum slows or other risks materialize.

What role does the People's Bank of China play in global liquidity according to Michael Howell?

The People's Bank of China plays a critical role in global liquidity due to its large economic footprint. Its liquidity injections can significantly impact the tempo of the global economy, and its actions are closely watched for signs of easing or tightening.

What does Michael Howell predict for the US stock market in 2025?

Michael Howell predicts that the US stock market could still be higher by the end of 2025, but it will be a challenging year with increased risks. He is less convinced of a positive outcome compared to earlier years.

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Michael Howell, from Crossborder Capital, shares his insights on global liquidity, expecting it to peak in late 2025/early 2026. He advises enjoying the current market conditions but remaining cautious and prepared for potential shifts.
  • Liquidity expected to increase in 2025 but momentum is slowing
  • Cautious optimism, advises 'enjoy the party, but dance near the door'
  • Risks are picking up

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Michael Howell of Crossborder Capital joins Jack on Monetary Matters to share his outlook on global liquidity from three sources: central banks, cross border flows, and the private sector. Howell expects the liquidity cycle to peak in late 2025 / early 2026 and says "enjoy the party but dance near the door." Recorded on December 19, 2024.

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