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cover of episode When the Market Crashes… They Profit | Wayne Himelsein on Logica Capital’s Long Volatility Playbook

When the Market Crashes… They Profit | Wayne Himelsein on Logica Capital’s Long Volatility Playbook

2025/4/9
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Wayne Himelsein: 我创立Logica Capital Advisors的初衷是开发一种在市场波动性加剧时能够获利的独特策略。我们专注于完全做多波动率,这与大多数通过做空波动率来支付做多波动率成本的策略截然不同。我们认为,做空波动率与我们的目标相悖,因为市场抛售时波动率会飙升,而这正是我们想要的结果。 我们的策略面临theta衰减和持续亏损的挑战,这需要我们在获得收益之前承受巨大的成本。但我们通过多年的研发,找到了在等待市场抛售期间获利的方法,即通过高频交易来实现做多波动率,并在市场波动期间逐步获利了结。 我们的策略在2015年和2016年的市场回调中得到了验证,有效地对冲了其他策略的损失。2020年疫情期间的市场波动也为我们的策略带来了显著收益。然而,2022年市场下跌,波动率并未大幅上升,这使得人们对我们的策略有效性产生怀疑。我们认为,2022年的市场下跌并非由于恐慌性事件,而是由于经济环境的缓慢变化,因此波动率并未大幅上升。 我们相信,尽管市场在2020年和2023年表现良好,但我们的做多波动率策略仍然具有长期价值,因为市场中总会有压力事件发生。我们专注于标普500指数的波动率,并持续进行研发和创新,以适应不断变化的市场环境。我们不会将策略搁置,而是将不同市场环境下的策略经验融入到我们的核心策略中。 我们的策略具有很高的流动性,能够在一天内完成整个投资组合的清算。我们与大型机构投资者合作,他们理解并认可我们的长期策略。我们最近推出了新的基金,这些基金基于我们的核心策略,并对策略进行了改进,以优化风险和收益。我们专注于成为该领域的专家,并不会扩展到其他资产类别。

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Wayne Himelsein, CIO of Logica Capital Advisors, explains his firm's unique approach to long volatility investing. Unlike most vol managers who use spread trades to fund their long positions, Logica focuses exclusively on gross long vol, a strategy that requires several years of R&D and careful management of theta bleed.
  • Logica Capital Advisors focuses on gross long volatility, unlike most vol managers.
  • The firm spent years in R&D to perfect this unusual strategy.
  • Carrying long vol and making money while waiting for payoff is challenging due to theta bleed.

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Wayne Himelsein, CIO and founder of Logic Capital Advisors, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how his hedge fund is built to profit when volatility spikes in moments just like this. Everybody wants to carry crash protection but if implemented improperly the cost of carrying hedges can bleed you dry. Finding innovative ways to solve this problem is what drives Himelsein and Logica forward and in this discussion he discusses their approach to maintaining at the money long volatility exposure without relying on spread trades to fund tail hedges.

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