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Full of Mirth: 401(k), Clubs, TSLA

2025/5/16
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Matt Levine: 我认为年轻时应该更多地投资股市,年长时则应减少。从理论上讲,早期应该利用杠杆来增加退休投资,以平滑回报并获得更好的收益。Basic Capital提供了一种更友好的杠杆方式,通过定期贷款而非保证金贷款,避免了追加保证金的风险。但实际上,他们将大部分资金投入债券而非股票,降低了杠杆作用。虽然很多人觉得杠杆很可怕,但实际上将大部分净资产集中在房产上可能更危险。如果能以80%的贷款价值比投资标普500指数30年,那会是一个好产品。不过,如果以80%的杠杆投资于私人信贷组合,存在私人信贷泡沫破裂的风险。总之,Basic Capital的方案是一种为了实现抽象目标而做出的折衷方案,虽然有其优点,但也存在一定的风险和局限性,需要谨慎评估。 Katie Greifeld: 我个人对在退休账户中使用杠杆感到担忧,因为杠杆听起来很可怕。虽然Basic Capital提供的不是保证金杠杆,而是五年期的定期贷款,但如果投资组合的价值低于起始价20%,整个退休储蓄可能会被清空,这种风险是存在的。目前将私人资产纳入401k的淘金热,大家都想把高收费产品放入401k,这让我感到担忧。如果我有30年的时间跨度,我更倾向于投资股票,而不是私人信贷。因为股票的回报率可能更高,而且费用更低。总的来说,我对在退休账户中使用杠杆持谨慎态度,更倾向于传统的投资方式。

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This chapter explores the concept of leveraging 401(k) investments, discussing the theoretical benefits and practical challenges. It examines the Basic Capital approach and compares the risks involved with those of traditional mortgages.
  • Leveraging 401(k) investments offers potential for higher returns but also increased risk.
  • Basic Capital's approach uses term loans instead of margin calls, but involves high fixed income allocation.
  • Comparison between leveraging 401(k) and home mortgages highlights similar risks but different implications.

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Matt and Katie discuss leveraging up your 401(k), everyone's love for putting private credit into retirement accounts, mortgages versus margin loans, college finance clubs, travel sports and how to get Elon Musk paid.

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