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Some Cigarettes: Accreditation, Memes, Naughty ESG

2024/10/25
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Matt Levine: 本期节目讨论了合格投资者制度的合理性及其对市场的影响,特别是关于是否应该通过考试来取代财富要求。他认为,目前的制度导致许多人可以投资私募股权,这引发了公平性问题。他还提出了一个解决方法:让投资者签署一份声明,承认他们知道自己正在进行风险投资,以减少投诉并降低投资者的虚假安全感。此外,他还分析了Robinhood的转型策略,以及迷因股票的崩盘对投资者信心的影响。最后,他还讨论了ESG基金的市场营销与实际执行之间的差距,以及监管机构对ESG基金的监管重点。 Katie Greifeld: 她分析了合格投资者门槛过低的问题,以及这如何导致许多人可以投资私募股权,引发公平性问题。她还讨论了金融业监管机构FINRA曾提议在散户投资者购买私募产品前进行知识测试,但这一提议引发了大量争议。她还分析了Robinhood的用户数量众多,但其管理的资产规模相对较小,这表明许多用户只是进行短期投机交易,而非长期投资。最后,她还讨论了Wisdom Tree因其ESG ETF的市场营销与实际投资策略不符而被罚款,这突显了ESG基金市场营销与实际执行之间的差距。

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What is the current income requirement to be considered an accredited investor?

To be considered an accredited investor, an individual must have an annual income of at least $200,000 or a net worth of $1 million, excluding the value of their primary residence.

Why is there a push to change the accredited investor rules?

There is a push to change the accredited investor rules because the current criteria, which are not indexed to inflation, now apply to about 20% of households. Critics argue that the rules unfairly limit access to potentially lucrative private investments to those with wealth, rather than financial knowledge or sophistication.

What is the significance of the Senate's proposal for an SEC exam for accredited investors?

The Senate's proposal for an SEC exam aims to allow individuals to become accredited investors by demonstrating financial knowledge through passing an exam, rather than solely based on income or net worth. This could democratize access to private investments and align investor qualifications more closely with financial sophistication.

How has Robinhood's strategy evolved regarding its user base?

Robinhood is evolving from being a platform for casual, fun trading to targeting more serious, long-term investors. They are introducing features like index options, a desktop trading platform, and matching bonuses for transferring assets to Robinhood, aiming to become a one-stop shop for both trading and retirement savings.

What was the issue with WisdomTree's ESG ETFs that led to a $4 million fine?

WisdomTree was fined $4 million for mismarketing its ESG ETFs. The firm claimed these funds excluded companies involved in fossil fuels and tobacco, but due to errors in data purchased from third-party vendors, they inadvertently included companies with minor involvement in these industries, such as retailers selling cigarettes.

What challenges do ESG funds face in terms of regulation and public perception?

ESG funds face challenges due to the lack of a standardized definition of what constitutes ESG, leading to varied interpretations and implementations by different issuers. This can result in public skepticism and regulatory scrutiny, especially when funds do not adhere to their stated ESG principles, as seen in the case of WisdomTree.

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This chapter explores the accredited investor system, its requirements, and ongoing debates about its fairness and necessity. It discusses potential reforms, such as implementing a standardized exam for accreditation, and the implications of these changes for both investors and the financial industry.
  • The current accredited investor criteria ($200,000 income or $1 million net worth) are not indexed to inflation, leading to an increasing number of qualified individuals.
  • A proposed Senate bill suggests creating an SEC exam to determine accreditation, aiming for a more merit-based system.
  • Concerns exist about the alignment of brokers' interests with clients, particularly regarding high-fee complex private market investments.

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Katie and Matt discuss taking tests to buy risky investments, growing up from meme stocks to boring retirement investing, and what happens when ESG funds smoke the occasional cigarette.

 

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