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Raiders, Rulers, and Traders: The Horse and the Rise of Empires

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David Chaffetz: 我在1976年骑马穿越阿富汗的经历让我深刻认识到马在中亚文化中的重要性。当时,许多地方没有无线电、手机等现代交通工具,马是人们出行的主要方式。后来,我在中亚和中国西部旅行时,也看到了马的重要性。我发现马在中国历史上非常重要,因此我写了这本书,探索马如何成为中国国家建设以及中国与亚洲内部关系的重要因素。 Jeremiah Jenny: 我一直对以事物为中心的历史非常着迷,特别是以马这种动物为中心的历史,我认为马是人类历史上最重要的驯养动物之一。我喜欢这本书,它让我对马在人类历史和中国文化中的重要性有了更深刻的认识。 David Moser: 我认为马在中国文化中扮演着重要的角色,尤其是在军事和贸易方面。中国古代的军队依靠马匹进行战斗和运输,而丝绸之路的开辟也离不开马匹的运输。此外,马还被视为一种财富和地位的象征,在古代中国社会中备受推崇。

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This week on the podcast, we explore the role of the horse in Chinese culture with author David Chaffetz, whose new book Raiders, Rulers, and Traders: The Horse and the Rise of Empires* traces the sweeping impact of horse domestication across world civilizations. Chaffetz explains how equestrian cultures not only transformed warfare and mobility in China, but also reshaped the very boundaries of empire and cultural identity.

Our conversation follows China’s long and complex relationship with the horse, from defending against nomadic cavalry along the northern frontier to importing prized horses through Silk Road diplomacy. Chaffetz recounts the challenges faced by Chinese dynasties in breeding horses to match the superior mounts of Mongol raiders.

We also explore the echoes of China’s horse culture preserved in relics, from paintings and artifacts to the horse statues unearthed among the Terracotta Warriors.

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David Chaffetz, )Raiders, Rulers, and Traders: The Horse and the Rise of Empires)