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Moths, Owls And Fungi With Over 20,000 Sexes...Oh My!

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Serenella Linares:作为一名经验丰富的自然向导和真菌专家,我带领大家进行了一次夜间自然观察活动,旨在探索冬季夜间森林生态系统的奥秘,并观察各种生物的独特特征和冬季适应策略。我们使用了紫外线灯等工具,以增强观察效果,并分享了关于地衣、飞蛾、真菌和其它生物的知识。 Emily Kwong:在这次夜间徒步旅行中,我亲身体验了冬季森林的奇妙之处。我们观察到地衣在紫外线照射下发出荧光,颜色发生变化;发现了多种飞蛾,并了解到它们利用月光和星光导航的习性;还观察到了一种拥有两万多种性别的真菌,以及红背蝾螈在冬季的生存策略。这些观察让我对冬季生态系统的复杂性和生物体的适应能力有了更深刻的认识。 Natalie Howe:作为一名生态学家,我对地衣的多样性和它们对紫外线的适应机制非常感兴趣。我们观察到不同颜色的地衣,并讨论了荧光在保护地衣免受紫外线伤害方面的作用。 Matt Felperin:我向大家介绍了如何通过模仿猫头鹰的叫声来吸引它们,并分享了关于“大美国露营”等社区活动的经验,强调了公众参与自然保护的重要性。 Anna Kahanui:我向大家介绍了iNaturalist应用程序,并分享了利用该应用程序进行物种识别和记录的经验。我强调了学习识别和命名周围生物的重要性,以及这如何加深人们与自然的联系。

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The episode begins with the host, Emily Kwong, recounting her recent night hike in Patuxent River State Park, Maryland, led by naturalists. They used UV lights and homemade banana bread to enhance their exploration of the park's nighttime ecosystem.
  • Night hike in Patuxent River State Park
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  • Homemade banana bread

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What's up, Tutorinos? It's Emily Kwong. And Burleigh McCoy, freshly back from parental leave. And Emily, today I hear you recently embarked on some late-night reporting in the woods under the cover of darkness. Yeah. So is this your way of telling us you're a spy? Would a spy reveal that? Okay, my thoughts exactly. But seriously, what were you doing out there? Well, Burleigh, I was on a night hike. So in about two minutes, we'll get started.

Meanwhile, enjoy yourself. It was a tromp through Patuxent River State Park in Maryland, hosted by a group of naturalists, people trained in gathering observations and educating people about the environment. Now, naturalists lead hikes all over the world, but not all of them like this crew hand out homemade banana bread. That was pretty cool. And UV lights provided by our leader. Hi, my name is Serenela Linares. I'm the facility director at No Brain Your Nature Center.

and the program's chair of the Mycological Association of Washington, D.C. Okay, so Serenella is a mushroom expert? Yeah, along with other fungi. She's been leading nature walks since 2013, and tonight I really wanted to see the forest through her eyes to know what flaps and flutters and fluoresces when the sun goes down in winter. It is a night for nature magic.

bioluminescence, fluorescence of fungi and lichens of insects that fly in the night and are attracted to the bait that we have set up. So I should really like try to listen very closely to everything. And that's what I want to do with you today, Burleigh. I want to just get real quiet and listen.

to the sounds of a winter's night when everything is dead or dormant. Or is it? Okay. Today on the show, we are taking you on a night hike through the Patuxent River watershed in search of owls and salamanders and maybe, if we're lucky, a bioluminescent mushroom. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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All right, Emily. So you went on this night hike last month. Set the scene for us. What does this park look like? No idea because it was so dark and we don't have half of these critters night vision. Okay, this makes sense. But I know that the park, because I looked at a map, sits along the Patuxent River, which flows into Maryland's Chesapeake Bay.

We were bundled in our winter coats, and the first stop along our night hike was a patch of lichen growing along a tree just off the parking lot. Remind me, what are lichen exactly? Yeah, lichen is that stuff that grows on trees. It kind of looks like seaweed, but it's actually a hybrid colony of fungi and algae in a symbiotic relationship. To show us, Serenella dramatically shines her flashlight up the tree trunk.

Nothing out of the ordinary, right? That blue-gray lichen color, everything looks pretty much the same until... Serenella then flips on her UV light and the patch of green lichen totally changes. And it suddenly glowed neon yellow.

The lichen, one particular part of it was fluorescing. So absorbing the ultraviolet light from the flashlight and emitting visible light. Oh, and I'm just looking at the pictures you just sent me. And this is like neon, neon yellow. Yeah, it was like the Las Vegas strip.

Natalie Howe, an ecologist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, steps forward and shoves her face into the tree bark. If you come up real close, you can sort of tell that there's a lot of diversity there because there's some that are a little yellower, some that are a little grayer. There's a lot.

She sounds so excited. So we take a UV light and get up close to that tree to look, and pretty soon Serenella shouts. Oh, Natalie. What did you find? Oh, orange. That's true. We barely ever see that orange one. They just sound so excited. This sounds like my kind of group. Okay, so what do the different colors mean? Yeah, okay, so the yellow lichen is called pixie.

And the orange lichen is Pyxine ceridiana. And both have chemicals in their tissues which allow them to fluoresce. Okay, but like why? Natalie explained to me that lichen fluoresce as a protective response against ultraviolet light damage from the sun. Oh my gosh, I wish we could do this. Okay, that's so cool. So like these lichens are carrying their own sunscreen. Yep.

So the group starts to branch out at this point away from the lichen depot, drifting into pockets of the forest.

swinging their UV lights and headlamps up trees. Everyone's kind of getting into it now. And they're breaking up books to try to identify what they see. And suddenly it just feels weird to step on anything. Because, like, everything is alive. Yeah, except where there's trash. Oh. I actually got too excited about finding, like, a soggy piece of toilet paper because it reflected weirdly. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so what did you see next on your hike?

Well, there was this gigantic piece of fabric that one of the naturalists had hung up and lit with mercury vapor lamps. So those are lamps that emit this very broad spectrum of light and attracted all these different kinds of moths just like clinging to the fabric. Come on over here if anyone wants to get a quick photo of the fall canker worm. I want to see a photo of the fall canker worm. Okay.

Yeah, this moth, along with all moths, use the moon and stars to navigate. So lamps are a good way to draw them out of the shadows. Then Matt Felperin, a roving naturalist with Nova Parks, the regional park system of Northern Virginia, makes an announcement that he will be, quote, doing owl calls intermittently.

Okay. They're very defensive of their territory, so they will frequently come and check out who the potential rival is in their territory. So what's the best way to call a barred owl? There's a mnemonic for it, and the mnemonic would be, who cooks for you, who cooks for you all. Wow.

Matt learned how to do this while prowling for owls during the Great American Campout. What is that? It's this nationwide campaign that happens every June to get people outdoors in a safe way. And this was a really common theme among the naturalists. They're all involved with some kind of community work.

Anna Kahanui is the co-founder of the DC-based nonprofit Capital Nature. I found her crouched over a log inches from the dirt taking a picture with her iPhone. Oh my gosh. What is that? It's a snow fungus. So it's a jelly fungus. Yeah, so I want to get a picture of it. There's fungi that are jellied? Yeah, let me show you a better picture of it. It looks like slime.

So you got Matt making owl calls in the background, Anna face in the dirt showing me her iNaturalist. Okay. So iNaturalist is that app that helps you ID things in the natural world. I use it all the time for things like flowers and trees and one time a spider in my garden. Yeah. Anna's like a prolific user of iNaturalist. Well, you have 5,107 observations. That's incredible. I do make a lot of observations. 5,100. That's a lot. I have, I don't know.

A few dozen. But I have realized that learning to identify and name and even just notice the life forms around me is one of the best ways to deepen your relationship to land and to nature. Anna says you can also look up a bird count or some other bio blitz in your area. That's what they call like these nature searches. One of the biggest ones is the City Nature Challenge. Oh, what's that? It's basically a four-day sprint around Earth Day.

Cities who enroll are tasked with identifying as many of a certain type of species as possible. It's multi-generational. So because, you know, mom and dad and grandma and grandpa and the kids can go out and the kids are low to the ground. So did that owl ever show up? Never showed. Gave us the cold shoulder. But at this point in the hike, absolutely.

Owl cameo didn't really matter. I mean, over the course of the night, just watching these grown adults act more and more like kids was so amazing. Like sticking their fingers in dirt, rolling over wet logs, jumping and shrieking when a tiny crustacean like an isopod appeared. I love it. Oh no, it's like a little shrimp. Or a tiny fungi shaped like a fan with an incredible secret. Quesophilum comune.

Doesn't have two sexes. Doesn't have four sexes. Give me a number of how many sexes do you think? Six? Eight? Higher. 27? Go so much higher than you think is possible for how many sexes an organism can have.

I mean, 27 was the highest, you know, like what? Hundreds? 20,000. This fungi has 20,000 different sexes. Amazing. It's very successful, very abundant and found almost everywhere. Take a look.

And then there were life forms that were moving quite actively, like... We got a salamander? Yeah. Ooh, ooh. So I got low, you know, army crawling and peering through everyone's legs, hovering beneath this, like, chaotic cloud of science facts. Yeah, it's like...

Orange and black and slithering. It looks kind of like a snake. We have an eastern red-backed salamander. Yeah, copperish. One of the most interesting things I picked up was the fact that red-backed salamanders will bury themselves sometimes a foot deep in winter and

to basically be surrounded by decaying roots to stay warm and wet because the salamanders need the moisture to absorb oxygen through their skin. Yeah, and there's so many adaptations for winter when you really start to look for them. Sometimes that looks like a change of location. Sometimes that looks like energy conservation. Okay, give me an example. Yeah, this was towards the end of the hike. I hear Serenella calling my name in the dark. Oh!

All people look the same. We don't overlook the stick. The stick with the mushroom. With the mushroom. Wait, wait, is this the bioluminescent mushroom? That's right. That's right. This is the one Serenella spent the whole hike searching for. It is a honey mushroom. Our final observation of the night. So in the summertime...

Honey mushrooms produce a green light known as foxfire. They glow in the dark all on their own, no flashlight required. And we call this phenomenon bioluminescence. I am really sad to say I've never seen bioluminescence in nature. But honestly, I usually imagine it's like a frog or some kind of plankton doing the bioluminescing, not a mushroom.

Yeah, I had no idea that mushrooms bioluminesce either. Scientists don't entirely know why, but as Serenella explained to me and my husband Duncan, it might be the fungi's way of attracting nocturnal creatures. You know, the glow is basically an advertisement saying, Come get me, I'm delicious. Mmm.

And by the way, take my kids away. So how do you advertise your Burger King at 2 a.m.? Like, you need a knee inside that people walking by say, oh, yummy. Hungry animals, so birds, rodents, and insects eat the mushrooms and poop it out later, which may help with spore dispersal. But that's not what I saw, Burr.

No? No. It was winter, and apparently the honey mushrooms will shut down all bioluminescent business. They will not glow at night in wintertime. Glimmer. You did not see the green glow. Nope. Just a stick of happy brown caps that were not bioluminescing at all, which I think is

Provides a nice life lesson for wintertime, you know, about not spending energy when you don't have to. Honestly, Emily, this hike is reminding me that that's what winter is all about, right? At least according to nature. Slow down, rest, conserve your energy, and you can consider this hike your permission slip. Thank you so much for this night walk. Anytime, Barley. Welcome back to Shortwave. Thank you.

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This episode was produced by Jessica Young and Hannah Chin and edited by our showrunner, Rebecca Ramirez. Tyler Jones, check the facts. Jimmy Keeley was the audio engineer. Beth Donovan is our senior director and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy. I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Burleigh McCoy. Thanks for listening to Shortwave from NPR.

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