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Peeing Is Contagious!

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Regina G. Barber: 我主持了这个关于科学新闻的节目,讨论了三个主题:黑猩猩的传染性排尿、太空中的合唱波和更好的素食奶酪。我们还邀请了Jonathan Lambert和Ari Shapiro两位嘉宾一起讨论。 Jonathan Lambert: 我报道了关于黑猩猩传染性排尿的研究。这项研究发现,黑猩猩的排尿行为具有社会传染性,低等级的黑猩猩更容易受到高等级黑猩猩的影响。这种行为可能与群体同步或避免捕食者有关,但也可能是非适应性的。 Ari Shapiro: 我对太空中的合唱波和更好的素食奶酪进行了讨论。合唱波是一种自然现象,最近的研究发现其传播范围比之前认为的更广,这挑战了我们对合唱波形成机制的理解。 Richard Horn: 我是英国南极调查局的教授和杰出研究员,我评论了关于合唱波的研究。这项研究发现合唱波存在于地球磁场较弱且不均匀的区域,这改变了我们对合唱波形成机制的理解。 Stacey Dobson: 我是圭尔夫大学的博士候选人,我参与了开发一种新的植物性奶酪配方。这种奶酪在熔化和拉伸性能上更接近于乳制品奶酪,并且在味道上也很难区分。 Jonathan Lambert: 我参与了对黑猩猩传染性排尿行为的研究报道。这项研究由京都大学的研究生Ena Onishi进行,她花费了600多个小时观察黑猩猩的排尿行为,并发现它们比随机排尿更倾向于同时排尿。低等级的黑猩猩更容易受到高等级黑猩猩的影响,这可能是因为低等级的黑猩猩更关注高等级的黑猩猩。这种行为的进化优势可能在于帮助群体同步行动或避免捕食者,但也可能是非适应性的。这项研究发表在《当代生物学》杂志上。 Ari Shapiro: 我讨论了太空中的合唱波。这项研究首次在距离地球表面10万英里的地方发现了合唱波,这比之前认为的传播范围更广。这挑战了我们对合唱波形成机制的理解,因为这些波是在地球磁场较弱且不均匀的区域发现的。合唱波可以加速电子,从而对卫星和航天器造成损害,因此了解其形成机制至关重要。 Stacey Dobson: 我和我的团队开发了一种新的植物性奶酪配方,这种奶酪在熔化和拉伸性能上更接近于乳制品奶酪。我们使用了不同的蛋白质和脂肪,并通过一种类似于CT扫描的机器来观察其内部结构。我们发现,将椰子油与葵花油混合可以使奶酪更好地熔化和拉伸。如果用这种奶酪做烤奶酪三明治,你很难区分它和乳制品奶酪。这项研究发表在《流体物理学》杂志上。

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A Kyoto University grad student's 600-hour observation of chimpanzees reveals contagious urination, particularly among lower-ranking chimps influenced by dominant ones. The reasons remain unclear, possibly related to group synchronization or non-adaptive factors like the sound of urination.
  • Contagious urination observed in chimpanzees
  • Lower-ranking chimps more susceptible
  • Possible explanations: group synchronization, non-adaptive reasons

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See why 70,000 teams trust Grammarly at grammarly.com slash enterprise. You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwaver. It's Regina Barber here with science correspondent Jonathan Lambert. Welcome to the News Roundup. Thank you. Excited to be here on my first News Roundup with y'all. We are totally excited to have you. And we're also excited to have a News Roundup favorite, Ari Shapiro, one of the hosts of All Things Considered. Welcome back. I only came because I heard you were going to be here, John. Yeah.

Okay, so we're going to do what we usually do. We're going to go over three science stories in the news. The first one being what, John? Contagious peeing in chimps. Need I say any more? No, please don't. And not only do we have peeing chimps, but we're also going to get chirping course waves from space. I love chirps. And space. And better vegan cheese. We really contain multitudes. We totally do. All that on this episode of Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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This message comes from Capital One. Say hello to stress-free subscription management. Easily track, block, or cancel recurring charges right from the Capital One mobile app. Simple as that. Learn more at CapitalOne.com slash subscriptions. Terms and conditions apply. Okay, Ari, where do you want to start today? Let's start with contagious people.

Peeing among chips. Sorry, it's NPR. We should say urination. Contagious urination. What is going on? Yeah, okay. So to put this in context, have you ever heard of contagious yawning? Yeah, totally. Like if I yawn, you get the urge to yawn too? Yes. Yeah, I'm holding back the yawn right now. So Ina Onishi, a grad student at Kyoto University in Japan, was studying a group of captive chimpanzees when something similar struck her as odd. I noticed that they seem to have a tendency to urinate around the same time.

And it kind of reminded me of some human behaviors of going to bathroom together, for example. So like the same effect is making chimps pee together that makes us yawn in sequence? Yeah, exactly.

So this observation got Ina wondering if this behavior might be socially contagious, like yawning. And to see if it was, she spent more than 600 hours watching a group of 20 chimpanzees. To see when they pee? She had to track every time one of them relieved themselves? Yeah, and she said that it was easier to hear them pee than to see them pee.

But so she noted when each individual chimp peed and where they were relative to each other. And looking at the data altogether, an interesting pattern emerged. So basically chimps were peeing together a bit more often than you'd expect if they were just peeing at random. And she published that conclusion in the journal Current Biology this week. Could she tell why this was happening? So.

So being closer helped, but proximity wasn't like the main factor here. Chimps have a hierarchical society, and it turns out that the lower ranking chimps were more likely to catch the urge to pee from more dominant chimps. So when my boss pees, I'm going to pee? Yeah. Is that what you're telling me? Maybe, maybe.

And they don't know why this is. It could just be that lower ranking chimps are paying closer attention to higher ranking ones. But that's just one possibility. OK, so there's clearly more to study here. But is there any evolutionary reason that contagious urination would be an advantage? One idea is that doing the same thing together just kind of helps a group sync up, which could help them operate better as a unit.

If this happens in the wild, it might help the chimps avoid predators who get attracted by the smell of pee by concentrating it all in one spot. But we can't rule out that there might be like a non-adaptive reason. It could be just that the chimps pee when they hear other chimps pee, sort of like humans get the urge when you hear like running water. OK, let's move on from that one. Tell me about our second story, A Chorus in Space. Yeah. So there are these things called chorus waves. You want to hear? Of course I do. Yeah.

*whistling*

Yeah, it's cool, right? I feel like I'm in a jungle listening to the dawn chorus. Yeah, it's an audio clip and it's been reconstructed from radiation coming 100,000 miles above Earth's surface. That's about 165,000 kilometers. It's a natural phenomenon thought to be created from bunched up electrons trapped in Earth's magnetic field. And what's interesting is that these waves have been studied for almost 70 years, but Earth's chorus waves have never been found that far out until this recent study published in Nature.

But the surprising thing is they actually observe it and they see these waves in this region, which is kind of unexpected. It changes our ideas a little bit. So that's Richard Horn, a professor and distinguished research scientist at the British Antarctic Survey on Space Weather. He wasn't part of the study, but he said the study might change how scientists think chorus waves are created. How so? Well, the leading hypothesis on how chorus waves are created

But here's the complication. This study, for the first time, found chorus waves further out where Earth's magnetic field is much weaker and non-uniform. And yet the waves were growing and the electrons were still bunched, so the magnetic field gradient did not seem to be that important. Okay.

I'm sure Brian Eno is going to make a record with these waves any day now. But if I'm not Brian Eno, why should I care about this? Right. I mean, legit question. Electrons create these waves and then the waves themselves affect the electrons. It's like a feedback loop. Chorus waves can actually push these electrons to move nearly the speed of light.

And these extremely fast particles can disrupt electrical components that are aboard so many communication satellites and can damage spacecraft too. So understanding how chorus waves are created is important to our everyday lives. Okay, shall we make another really hard pivot from chorus waves in space to vegan cheese? What's up with the vegan cheese? Yeah, so I'm lactose intolerant. I'm not a fan of vegan cheese, but I'm like excited for possible better vegan cheese in the future.

So my question to you, have you tried it? Oh, I spend a lot of time with vegans. I've absolutely tried vegan cheese. I think they do better at like the ultra-processed Velveeta type stuff than they do at like the artisanal aged cheddar. Of course. Well, regardless of how you two feel, it definitely fills a niche. But many of these cheese alternatives you can buy in stores are also lower in protein than dairy cheese and use a lot of starch. And they often just don't melt and stretch like real cheese. So this is going to sound like the setup to a joke, but...

But how do you make better vegan cheese? Science, Ari. So Stacey Dobson is a PhD candidate at the University of Guelph in Ontario. And she and a research team developed this new cheese formulation and told us that the team's first step was to get a better understanding on how the protein, starches, and fats were, like, all working together. They looked at a bunch of proteins, including lentils and fava beans and pea protein, and they tested those with different fats.

Specifically, a lot of plant-based cheeses in stores use coconut oil, but researchers found if they blended coconut oil with sunflower oil, their cheese melted and stretched even more like dairy cheese. You've got to have that melty stretch in a grilled cheese sandwich. Yes. And Stacey says that the team also put these combinations into a machine that's kind of like a CT scan, but for food. So it lets the researchers look at the inside of the structures, things like how big the

fat globs were inside each version of the cheese. So, for example, Stacy saw that big oil globules kind of spread out more in the mouth and could work well for things that need to be melty, like grilled cheese. They wrote all about it in the journal Physics of Fluids. Dare I ask how it tasted? Yeah.

Yeah, so she and her team said that they tried like lots of this cheese during the research process. They had this little pizza oven and toaster to test it all out. And she says, If I made you a grilled cheese sandwich with it, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between that and dairy cheese. Stacey said the team was working only on some aspects of these cheeses. And there's a lot of work the industry still needs to do to figure out even better ways to make them act and taste like dairy cheese.

Ari, we missed your energy. We're so happy to have you back. Thank you for coming and hanging out with us. I'm not going to say I wanted a break from politics, but now that I've been here with you all, I think maybe I needed it. Yeah, some science news is always good for the soul. Always.

You can hear more of Ari on Consider This, NPR's afternoon podcast about what the news means for you. And before we go, we want to say a big thank you if you're one of the listeners who answered the call in the last few months and supported our show by signing up for NPR+. That support is so important to keeping our week going. So thank you. And if you've heard about NPR+, but you haven't supported us yet, it's really easy to sign up. Just go to plus.npr.org.

This episode was produced by Hannah Chin and Jordan Marie Smith. It was edited by Rebecca Ramirez and Christopher Intagliata. Rachel Carlson contributed reporting. Tyler Jones checked the facts. Ko Takasuki-Chernovan and Becky Brown were the audio engineers. I'm Regina Barber. And I'm Jonathan Lambert. Thanks for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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