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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Chasing the Sweet Things in Life, the Sweet Paul podcast. Coming to you late this week. Yes, I'm sorry. Last week was really busy. You had like three markets. In one weekend. And I did two of them. And I also had a toothache. And you had a toothache.
And we're still coughing. So it's just like, yeah. Sorry about it. Well, you had a market, a new market in LA called Market Market at the Row. Row was really fabulous. That was really good. It was amazing. Yeah. And then you had at Ace Hotel. Which is fabulous, as usual. In Palm Springs, yeah. And then you also had one in the Ferry Building. Yes, which is...
Every Sunday. So that's happening as usual. And we had two in Southern California, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, it was great. It's fabulous. Market market at Rowe, the launch was really great. We had some really strong vendors there. We had...
The Puffs, which do oversized, colorful cotton candy art, which was such a hit. Yeah, the kids went crazy. And it was so cute because my booth was more or less opposite of them, so I could see everything. And it was...
Some kids with a cup of candy was bigger than the kid. Yeah. It was really amazing. Which was so fun to see. So they'll be there for the whole pilot series. We're there every other Saturday. Yeah, that was fun. Oh, and these two lovely women from San Diego came.
Who loved the podcast and said... Wasn't it Pasadena? I thought it was San Diego. Maybe it was San Diego. Yeah. Well, shout out San Diego or Pasadena. No, San Diego, I think. San Diego, okay. Because I was thinking, dang, they drove a long way. Two hours. Yeah. But they loved the podcast and said, I have an amazing speaking voice. So thank you very much. They said actually that you should do voiceover work. So my new career is going to be doing cartoons and commercials. Cartoons.
So what would your optimal cartoon? What would you be like? The hero? The villain? No, I would be like... Dancer in Distress? No, I would be like the Mexican gardener in Bob's Burgers or something like that. But there isn't any Mexican. Well, there needs to be representation. That's very true. I would be like the funny Mexican. I don't know. I think you should be the villain.
Really? Yeah. Like a flamboyant Disney villain? Exactly, because let's face it, all Disney villains are queer. Very flamboyant. Yes. And clearly queer, which is good because that's what we're going to talk about in this episode. Oh, really? Gay villains? Gay villains. So this is episode number 13.
Lucky 13. Yeah, I actually grew up in a house that was number 13. Are you serious? That was your address? Oh, wow. So I don't believe in that whole, like, you know... Bad luck? No, no. And the noise in the background is a lawnmower. Just telling you. So, yeah, so this episode is called I'm Coming Out.
Yes. You know, like the Diana Ross song. I'm coming out. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. But I'm not going to say it. So this is your coming out story? Well, it should be our coming out story because, you know, we're two people here. Oh, I have to tell my coming out story? So you have to tell your coming out story, too. Oh, yeah, I know. I know. So this episode is going to be a little gay.
As in happy. As in very happy. Did you always know that you were gay? Yeah, of course. Yeah, me too. Of course I did. Yeah, me too. I always... And unfortunately, a lot of times it's just normal and natural and not an issue until you get shamed for it. And then it becomes problematic. Yeah. And then you have to reconcile...
everyone else's issues and all the institutions' issues with what you feel inside and hopefully overcome all that. Yeah, for me, it was like, I always knew there was something like that made me different from, you know, other boys. But at first, I didn't really know what it was.
And then when I knew what it was, I didn't really want to be that way because back then in the 80s, like early 80s, we didn't really have any, there was no role models. The only gay people I knew was my mom had a friend, he was a hairdresser, of course. And she would always tell stories about how like,
He was very unhappy and he didn't have anyone. Yeah. So everything was like very negative. There was no like positive. Yeah, especially in the 80s with the AIDS epidemic. Well, this is before that. But there was no like positive role models. There was nothing. Like whenever there was something gay on TV, it was always like they always died in the end.
They were like serial killers or, you know, there was nothing positive about it whatsoever. And, of course, I didn't really want to be, you know. Yeah, of course. I didn't want to be one of those guys. Yeah, of course. But, you know, there's nothing you can do about it. You know, you are that way. You just have to deal with it. Yeah. And that's what we do. Yeah, of course. Yeah, me too. I was always interested in...
things that were sort of acceptable for girls to be interested in, but not so much boys. And so that's part of it too. It's just, it's personality, it's aesthetic, it's interest, it's, it's expression, all of those things that are often part of being queer is just a different point of view and a different expression. So it's,
It all gets lumped together oftentimes. But nowadays, thankfully, it's much different. And kids are... People are much more understanding and open towards... They're open and they have a ton of role models in music, actors, television. There's a huge difference. Yeah. Like huge. Yeah. I remember, you know, my grandmother and great aunt let me do whatever I wanted. So I didn't have a lot of dolls, but I have some...
And we would all like play with them. But I remember I would, or they would remove them before my dad came home. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I do remember that. And I remember I asked for like a Barbie because my friend Rudy had like a couple of Barbies and I wanted a Barbie. And I asked my parents and they said no. And I think my grandmother bought me one, but it was kind of like a little bit of a secret. Yeah, love that. So I had like a,
So I don't know if they knew that I was gay. I think my parents knew from a very early age because I can kind of remember being like eight or nine and overhear a discussion they had about me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And also something very vivid. My great aunt, we went to a store, like an embroidery store, and I found these little
kit of like it was a dog's head and a blue background that you can embroider yourself yeah and i love that i remember she bought it for me and she taught me how to do all the stitches and then i did it at home and i remember i did it when we had some guests over and my dad was not happy about that yeah he kind of told me after that you know i don't do that again
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I have some pretty heavy duty stories of my father saying some pretty awful things to me. Yeah. And again, that didn't necessarily have to do with being gay. It had to do with self-expression, like doing my hair in the morning or being interested or taking a stand against sports or, you know, those things that were my personality that there was some cheap shots taken.
For sure. Yeah, he was never mean. It's very hurtful. Yeah, they were never mean about it. No, but they didn't have to be mean about it. Yeah, because, you know, it stung no matter what. Yes, of course. It doesn't matter what you say. It's always like... Yeah, because also you're so, you know, you're young, you're very sensitive. Everything, you take everything to heart. So whatever is said to you, you're very...
It's very easy to be like, be hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Even if that was never the intention, it, yes, can be very damaging. And once you put a word to it, when you knew what it was, I actually remember that some kids that lived in my neighborhood, a couple of boys, they called me
A word that is kind of like faggot. And I went home and I asked my parents what that meant. And then I remember that my dad, next time we saw those kids, he told them that if you ever call him that again, I'll beat you up. Yeah. Yeah, I had a similar story where I was using the word and my parents asked me, do you know what that means? And the thing is, I was just...
repeating that word what was said called to me and i didn't know what it meant yeah yeah so yeah so interesting so what what's your official coming out story well here's the thing the first person i ever told that i was gay was actually a girl in class in college the first first year in college
And I remember we had an English class and I was feeling, I don't know, I was feeling down somehow. And she was like, what's wrong? Is something wrong? And I was like, you know, F it. So I wrote on a note and I passed it to her and I said, I'm gay.
And she wrote the note back saying, well, that's totally fine. You know, it doesn't change anything. You're still an amazing person, blah, blah, blah. Well, it wasn't that cute. Because what she did, she went and told everyone the same day. So by the end of that day, everyone knew. Everyone in the school knew. I was the school gay. In some ways, it's like maybe that made it easier. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? Imagine if you had to go around and tell every single, you know what I mean? I know, but it was just very. It was betrayal. It was a total betrayal. I felt absolutely devastated because I remember coming out a couple of classes later and she was standing like in the middle with a bunch of kids and they all turned around and looked at me. Yeah. And I was like, oh shit, this is okay. Okay. I immediately understood. I know.
I mean, were you friends after that? I mean... No, that totally kind of like ruined. And she became...
She became kind of like... She had a mean streak about her. Yeah. I'm not going to say too many bad things about her because she's actually dead. Yeah. It was a horrible story. She got married, got a kid, and then died very shortly after of cancer. Oh, my gosh. So it was actually terrible. Yeah. So I do forgive her. Yeah. But I wish she... You know, yeah, whatever. Yeah, so that's my... So what happened was that when I was like...
I think I was 17. I was like, okay, I need to do something about this. And I didn't really know any other gay people at all. It turned out that I actually did. I just didn't know that they were gay. Oh, of course. So I joined this gay youth group. In Norway back then, there was like one big gay organization. And then they had a youth group. And they met every Monday.
between six and eight in a cafe in oslo and i remember going down there and like going past like a few times because i really had to like i don't know i had like man up to go in because i was really nervous yeah and then i went inside everyone was super friendly it was great the really like
thing about the whole stuff was that that first meeting, they had someone come and talk about AIDS. Yeah, of course. Well, that's the thing that loomed over the entire 80s when we were young. It was all over the news. It was the thing. So, yeah. So, it was like, okay, I'm finally here.
Oh, okay. Oh, we're all going to die. Great. Yeah. Yeah. So, but it was, I became part of that group. It was great. It really helped me. And I remember that. So back then it was one big gay bar in Oslo. It was called the Metropole. And the coffee shop was in the basement of like on the ground floor.
of that club. Yeah. And I was only 17 and to be able to go out to Norway to a bar you have to be 18. So the meeting was over and they were like do you want to go have a you know do you want to go to the bar? And I was like well you know I'm only 17 and I think but they snuck me in through the kitchen. Really? So that was the first time in like a real gay bar
That was the first time I saw two men kiss. Was it mind-blowing? It was kind of mind-blowing. Yeah. But also, somehow it made me really shy because I was a chubby teenager. And I was like, okay, no one's going to be interested in me. So I kind of took on this role as the class clown. Yeah, of course. I became the funny one. Yeah. Yeah.
And the fabulous one. The funny one that everyone wants to be friends with, but nothing ever. I never even got a kiss. Yeah. So yeah, that was like-- I would have kissed you if I was there. Thank you. I would have.
Yeah, no, it was really liberating to like, yeah, I was sitting around the table. I remember I had a glass of white wine. Oh my gosh. And just like seeing all this. And the music and were people like kind of fashionable? Some were, others not.
Well, you have to understand that I grew up in Los Angeles. Yes. So, honey, when I was going to clubs in Los Angeles at 18 years old, they were literally the most fabulous. Yeah, but we didn't have that. I mean, like, arena and...
cinematic and all these clubs were just the most fashionable, the most just cool. And, and like the music was amazing. And, and you were so close to like the creators of the culture and the music and the, you know, in Hollywood. So wild. Yeah. We didn't have Hollywood. So when I was in those clubs,
I remember I didn't even start drinking or even experiment with substances until way later because it was just so fabulous and mind-blowing just being in those environments with the music and the lights and the crowd. And so it was just so much fun to dress up and dance. And I had a curfew, so I was only able to stick around for like a couple hours and then I had to get home. When did we have to be home by? I think it was like midday.
like midnight so we would maybe be at the club by like nine or ten and just hang out for a couple hours and then I had to be home maybe 12 30 was my curfew once in a while I like when I stayed over friend's house or something I was able to stay out later so amazing yes and I think we're gonna do a little break yes okay
Okay, we're back. So what about your parents? When did your parents know? So I didn't tell my parents for a very long time. And the reason for that is that we weren't really a family that talked about like feelings and stuff like that. Yeah. And I kind of had this attitude when I was young that it's none of their business. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's like, okay, they don't ask. I don't have to tell. Yes. Yeah.
So what happened was in my mid-20s, I got my first boyfriend. And I remember I talked to my mom and I was like, oh. And in Norway, we don't have a word for like boyfriend or girlfriend. It's one word. Yeah. And it means my beloved. Yeah. So you can always get away with that like, oh, I met someone. It's my beloved. And it doesn't mean it can be a boy or a girl. Yeah.
So I said, oh, yeah, I met someone, you know, my beloved. And she was like, oh, that's great. Oh, cool. And I said, well, it's a guy. And she was like, and she was laughing. And she was like, yeah, okay, yeah, we know. So that was like. It was just that simple. Yeah, that was it. Yeah. I knew that it was fine. Yeah, of course. Luckily, I think for a lot of people in Europe, it's a little bit easier than in America. At least in like the 70s and 80s.
Yeah, this is like, now we're talking the 90s. And of course, yeah, it was, you know, we had very early on laws against discrimination. Yeah. So where I come from, you can't say whatever you want. There are consequences to the things you say. Yes. Like we had a very famous evangelical pastor that went on the radio and said that all gays will burn in hell and die and
And stuff like that. And he even had to go to prison. Yeah. So there's consequences. You can't just say whatever you want. Yes. Which is the way it should be. I mean, hate speech, for example, should not be a right. No, no, no. There's no room for hate speech in any of the Scandinavian countries. Of course not. You just can't do it. The funny thing is that at that youth group I was a part of, we would go to meetings. We would figure out...
There were some of these Christian right-wing organizations that would have ex-gays come and give speeches. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember there was an ex-gay coming from America. Of course. To speak at one of them. And we went there and we made a complete ruckus. We shut the whole thing down. I love it. And he was the gayest thing I've ever seen. Of course. Yeah. He was like, oh, you're not gay.
Okay. You like women though? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, speaking of, my parents are religious and I grew up in that environment. And so my coming out story is that I went on a high school trip when I was probably, I don't know, like 16. And I forgot my journal underneath my bed. Oh, no. So while I was away, they read it.
And then when I came back from the trip is when they confronted me and asked if I was gay. And of course, at that time, I was like, yeah, but I don't necessarily want to be because no one would wake up and just decide to be. So they, you know, it started out as something that I was like dealing with. And then for a very long time, they would be like, do you have a girlfriend? Do you have a girlfriend? Yeah.
No, no, no. And then once I sort of reconciled my upbringing with my truth and I stood up to all of it and said, you know, look, this is the reality. I'm not attracted to women. I never have been. I love men. And I sort of moved away very young and stayed away my entire life.
So it was easy to sort of compartmentalize them. But you're right in the terms of it's none of their business. So I never really brought up any of my relationships or anything because it just wasn't... Did they stop asking you? They eventually did, yeah. But even to this day, we don't speak because after all these years...
When I finally opened up to them and wanted you to meet them for the holidays, they said no, that you're not welcome. So I have to choose my family over them as my relatives. So it is what it is. But we get to... Yeah, we get to choose. As queer people, we get to choose our family. And we are often mothered by those people and our friends and fathered by our chosen family and our friends. So...
Not to get heavy, but you're my family. I know, baby. And you're mine. And the dog is. And we have Hugo and Lestat. And we have good, loving friends. And that's what we need. And that's what we have. Yes. Yeah. So, oh, well, enough of this gay shit. Okay. Let's go to some questions. Let's take a quick break. Oh, my God. What else? Oh, I love it. Enough of this gay shit.
Let's take a break and we'll come back with What's Up, Sweet Paul. Okay. Okay, we are back. We are back. What's up, Sweet Paul? What's up? Okay, Elizabeth Charbonneau. Oh, I think she's written to us before. Ooh, nice. Hey, Elizabeth. She says, I'd recently become interested in the production of Linen and wondered if Sweet Paul could talk more about this lovely textile in the magazine or the podcast.
His favorite uses, favorite suppliers, tips on caring for it, and inquiring minds want to know, does he prefer crisp iron linen or soft all natural? So interesting. Ooh.
I love soft, natural linen. Yeah. Yeah. It's very important when I shoot something for the magazine, either if it's food or craft, it's always about textures and layers. Let's say I shoot a plate of food. It always looks better if it has something textured under it than just like a straight... Plate on the table. Yes. Yes.
So, you know, linen backgrounds, linen napkins, all that stuff is super important. And I love it to be like a little, you know, wrinkly. Yeah. But we're actually talking about linen, not just linens generically. Oh. The fabric linen, right? Yes, I think so. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Like specifically in clothing, like I have some linen clothes, the shorts and shirt. Yeah.
And it's a really fabulous fabric. And, you know, a lot of people might press their linen clothing, but I just wear it as is. And it's very wrinkly in texture. The thing is that, yeah, you can press it, but after five minutes, after you sat down, it's going to look like you didn't press it. Yeah. So I don't understand why you need to do that. Yeah. And there's nothing... I remember years ago...
in Norway it was super like every woman wanted like white linen pants and I had a friend who worked in a women's clothing store and people would come in and be like I would like to buy a pair of white linen pants please the kind that you don't have to iron and she was like yeah that doesn't exist yeah exactly yeah you have to like there's no way yeah so when you see like
Like movies, old movies with men in white linen suits. Yeah, I don't think they looked like that. They must have been like a wrinkled mess. Yes. Honestly. Yes. Can you steam linen or does it need to be ironed? No, you can steam it too. And it'll smooth out? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Totally. Another trick I got was, because I remember how years ago I had one linen shirt that I really, really loved.
And a friend of mine once said, spray it with water and hang it on a hanger in a room that's a little bit damp. So after you shower, hang it on the shower rod. And when you...
After a couple of hours, it will be straighter. Oh, that's great. Yeah. But no, I love linen. I think it's such a beautiful... And it also wears really well. Yeah. You know, it kind of becomes more and more beautiful as you use it. Yes. So that's why I also love linen napkins because they become...
softer and softer and more and more beautiful as you wash it and dry it. But yeah, I don't like starch, linen, napkins. It doesn't really impress me. Yeah, totally. I want something that's like soft and beautiful. Yes. So they say the best linen is European. It's either Eastern European like Latvia, Estonia, or like Dutch, French,
That's the best linen you can find. And they come in all price ranges. Of course. I remember years ago, I bought this stunning linen bed set at ABC. Oh, yeah. Linen sheets, bed sheets. Yes. So once they're worn in, they're the coziest thing ever. It's amazing. Yeah. But they still got holes in them.
Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, we love linen. Please send me some linen. Yeah. Okay. Next question comes from, I don't think there's a name. Dear Paul and James, first of all, let me say I love the podcast. It's funny, informative, and so personal. Thank you. Oh, my name is Lewis, and I work a super boring corporate job. I really hate it. Oh, my gosh. My big passion.
Passion is textile art, love weaving and embroidering. That's what I want to do full time. But I'm so worried about money and stuff. Do you have any tips on how to turn my passion to a full time paying gig? Lots of love. Good question, Lewis. That's a good question. Well, I think first you have to keep your job and do your passion on the side. Mm hmm.
And of course, use social media as much as you can. Start selling online. Start doing markets. That's a great way to meet people. Here's the thing. You really have to look at it like a brand. Yes. So you need to have a strong brand, meaning a logo, overall aesthetic, have the language of how you describe what you do down there.
And a good Instagram account and Facebook presence and even a website. And you have to really look at it like a brand. Like if it's, you know, Apple or Coca-Cola, you're like, you have to really look at it. It's like, how can this be modern and fresh and appealing and take advantage of all of building a following and an audience. And then once you have enough inventory, you should take it to market and see what the responses from people and,
see what works and what doesn't work and just really pay attention to what the feedback from other people. And yeah, you will soon figure out what people are interested in and what they are not. And, you know, take pictures of your stuff, send it to, to bloggers and magazines, whatever you can to like get it out there. Yeah. And remember you can't be all things to all people. So do, um,
what you love, have a point of view, and that can always evolve. But, you know, oftentimes there's, you see people at markets trying to sell a little bit of everything and then it just gets very confusing and it sort of dilutes the stuff that's stronger. So yeah. And then just work on it and the side. And as soon as your craft is taking up too much time, then you can sort of
let go of maybe the more stable job. There'll be a tipping point. You don't just quit your job and say, okay, I'm going to start. You need to get a momentum going. Yeah, you need to work on it for a while and then
Once you're starting to sell, once you have fans that loves it, you know, when you really feel that, oh, yeah, this is something now's the time, you will feel it. Yeah. You will feel it in your bones. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Well, good luck with that. How exciting. I know. Let us know how it goes. Yeah. Send us some pictures of your work. Yes. Okay. Next question.
It's from Jackson in Tulsa, Oklahoma, asking about Hugo and Lestat. What are their ages and how are their personalities different? Oh, my gosh. Night and day. Literally, one's black and one's blonde. Oh, my gosh.
Well, Hugo is five. Five or six now. No, no, he's five. No, we've been together for five years. He's six years old. He's six? Stop trying to... He's not a puppy. Stop pretending he's still a little puppy. Well, for years I went around saying he was four years old. No, he's almost exactly six now. Okay.
Yeah, Hugo is the blonde one. He's the youngster. He's six years old. Who's currently licking the sofa right now because he's so weird. Like, he's giving me side-eye. Yeah, I know. He's the young, energetic one. He's always up to mischief. He's very smart, very clever, very mischievous. He knows how to, like, get into different situations. If there's, like... If we let him out... If we're at a friend's house and we're like, is this property dog safe? And they're like, yes. Yes.
If there's a little hole, he will find it. Yeah. He's very like... Yeah. He's a handful, but we love him so much. Yes. And he's the most cuddly dog I have ever experienced. He can jump really high. Loves to cuddle. Loves to snuggle. And he's...
And he's fussy and high maintenance and everything. And we love it. Yes. When I take him out every morning, I have to go to a special place for him to poop. If I don't go there, there will be no poops in that morning.
Oh my god. And then snoring over there in the bed asleep is Lestat, who's... Who we honestly don't know exactly how old. I think he's like 12 years old, maybe? He's either 12 or 13. Yeah. He's our old timer. Yeah, we need to figure out exactly how old he is. He's definitely getting old. Yeah. But he is in very good shape. He is. He's playful. He's...
he's very sweet he eats well drinks well he does everything he needs to do and he's a very sweet dog he's chill he never does anything bad he's now deaf so yes he's unfortunately sometimes we can't get his attention which is really hilarious so now we have to use finger language finger language
Sign language. Yes, to make him like... Yeah, we're doing a lot of waving and screaming to get his attention. Yeah, we have to scream really loud for him to... I don't even think he hears that, honestly. Yeah, maybe not. No, but he's the sweetest. He's the type of dog now you can just sort of pick him up and snuggle and he won't fuss. He's a very good dog. He's the most special dog.
dog iberhat and he follows me wherever i go yes and when you're not here he does the same to me like from room to room he just follows me he follows and cannot leave us alone yeah
Which is fine. You know. Yes. They're very sweet. We love them. They're our family. Yes. Okay. Last question is for the new year in 2020 from Suzanne in Las Vegas. Ooh, Las Vegas. She wants to know about healthy eating, new year, new ways of eating. What...
are some simple, healthy ways to eat in 2020? Good question. Oh, yeah. We're sort of back on that path, hopefully. We had a very decadent holiday season of eating. Yes, extremely. Lots of pork. There was a lot of fatty food, and now we're trying to wheel it back and be more thoughtful about what we eat. So, you know, it's...
We're actually trying to eat less meat because, you know, it's not that good for you. Yeah. Since I'm diabetic, I eat a lot of meat and cheese and now my bad cholesterol is kind of high. So it's like, can I, I mean, it's just like, honestly,
Can I have one and not the other? So we're going to probably be eating more chicken and fish. Yes, we're definitely going to eat more chicken and fish and vegetables, of course. Yeah, like last night he just roasted broccoli and Brussels sprouts, which is so delicious. Yeah, a lot of people say, oh, it's so boring. But like, no, but here's what you do. So you cut them up in small pieces in a sheet pan.
olive oil, salt, pepper, and then garlic powder and onion powder. And you roast them until they're crispy. Yes. And the garlic powder and onion powder would really help get flavor into your roasted vegetables. Yeah. It really, really, really helps. Yeah. A couple of days ago, I made this. So James, you know, he's diabetic. He's not supposed to eat too much tomato.
So I was like, oh, I want to make a beef stew. So what I did, I just browned some beef and into a pot with onion and garlic. And then I just use beef broth.
It was really delicious. And it just, you know, it was just like simmering and simmering. Lots of onion, right? Lots of onion. It actually had like a French onion soup sort of base. Yes. It was delicious. It was really good. And then we served it over cauliflower rice. Yes. It was really good. It was really good. And it was the kind of dish that you're like, am I really not eating any carbs? Like it was so hearty and comforting. And the meat is really good. We actually...
Order our meat from ButcherBox. Yeah. If you're listening, they should maybe be sponsored. Yes. It's all organic meat and they deliver it once a month. It's really delicious. So we definitely want to eat more chicken, more fish, less pork and beef, and more vegetables. Yeah.
The great thing now is that, let's say you have a Trader Joe's in the neighborhood. They have so many great vegetable side dishes. They do. That you either heat in the microwave or you heat them in the stove. It's fantastic.
super easy and there's no really excuse not to eat healthier because it's all there yeah you know and mix some of them up like mix the cauliflower rice with the like mushroom medley and and becomes this hearty like risotto kind of vibe yeah like just mix it up and check out and season everything well yes of course here's the thing salt and pepper goes a long way the
Good salt, kosher salt, sea salt. There's nothing wrong with... There's nothing worse than going somewhere and you eat and there's like no flavor. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, just a little salt and pepper would really have taken this to the next level. Yes. It's not harder than that. But yeah, like stock up on...
vegetables and stuff you can have in the freezer so you always have stuff because it's it's when you don't have anything that's when you do the wrong choices yes i don't have anything in my fridge oh crap let's just order pizza yeah exactly yes yes get into that's what happens yeah of course so get into the routine of doing your grocery shopping once a week
So that there's always a better choice for you. Yeah. For sure. And just when you know, when you walk past that aisle with all the chocolate and the candy, just close your eye. I know I'm trying to, but it's really hard. I know. I know. My God, those chocolate-covered raisins, that's my favorite right now. Oh, no, stop. Uh-uh. Unacceptable. Raisins and anything. Oh, no. No! I love raisins. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
All right. That's it for today. Thanks for letting us get a little personal this time. Yes, this was a very personal episode. And as usual, if you have any questions for us, please, you can send us a direct message on Instagram, SweetPolMagazine, or you can send us an email at podcast at sweetpolmag.com. And please like and comment and rate us and
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