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主持人: 我认为2025年、2026年和2027年,AI智能体都将是主题。OpenAI计划对AI智能体收取高昂的月费,这反映了他们对AI智能体价值和市场前景的预期。如果OpenAI的AI智能体价格如此之高,企业将不得不将其视为劳动力替代品。评估AI智能体的价值应该基于其交付的价值,而不是运行成本。竞争将极大地降低AI智能体的价格。将AI智能体视为1:1的人力替代是一种短视的思维方式。随着基础模型的商品化,OpenAI需要在客户体验方面占据优势。OpenAI将积极进军高商业价值的AI智能体市场,但垂直AI智能体市场仍将保持竞争。 Matt Garman: 此处无观点,为引用邮件内容,无观点总结。 Arvind Srinivas: Perplexity公司正在从简单的问答机器转型为能够执行实际操作的智能体。 Sam Altman: GPT 4.5在写作方面有显著提升。 ChubbyOnX: 如果OpenAI的AI智能体能提供相应的价值,企业愿意支付高昂的价格。 Hugh Pham, Saleha Kamal, Alexander Doria: OpenAI对AI智能体定价过高,与市场上同等水平的人工成本不符。 Gregalia Rose: OpenAI对AI智能体的定价可能基于其在技术上的领先地位和AI智能体的实际效用。 Omvats: OpenAI的高定价将为构建垂直AI智能体的初创公司创造机会。 Dinos: OpenAI的AI智能体收入占比可能会超过其预期。

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Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief Headlines Edition, all the daily AI news you need in around five minutes.

Agents, agents, agents. That is the theme of 2025, as it will be in 2026 and 2027, I believe. But in any case, the latest company to jump into the agent pool is apparently Amazon. Reuters reports that the company has formed a new group internally focused on agents. According to an internal email, the group will be led by longtime AWS executives who have been involved in the AI and data teams.

In the email, AWS CEO Matt Garman wrote,

Separately, Amazon is not giving up the ghost on their own models. According to Business Insider, Amazon will be launching a reasoning model tentatively in June under the Nova model family. The model will reportedly borrow a hybrid architecture from Anthropic, meaning that it'll be able to decide if it needs to think more and use inference time, or if that's not necessary for the particular query.

Sources say that the chief focus will be to deliver a more cost-efficient model, which is what it looked like Nova was trying to do when it was announced last year. Nova is offered for 75% cheaper than comparable third-party models on Amazon's Bedrock. Still another goal, though, is to ensure the model can rank in the top five for performance in coding and math benchmarks. I gotta say, even if it feels like they have an uphill battle, at least they're doing more than Apple.

Next up, a big announcement from Perplexity. The company is teaming up with Deutsche Telekom, the fifth largest telecom in the world, to produce an AI phone. The device is intended to be a low-cost handset with a new built-in AI assistant called Magenta AI. And it's pretty clear from the announcement that not only does Deutsche Telekom want to get in on the AI game, but Perplexity is thinking about its future as an AI assistant slash agentic assistant, even though that's not the word they used.

During the announcement, CEO Arvind Srinivas said, perplexity is transitioning from just being an answer machine to an action machine. It's going to start doing things for you, not just answering questions. It's going to be able to book flights, book reservations, send emails, send messages, place phone calls, all the sort of things that I frequently on this show rag about people not actually caring about. However, if it's totally integrated into your phone experience, maybe I'm wrong. Right now, we don't have a ton more details about the phone, but this is a big score for perplexity and we'll be exciting to see what they can do here.

In OpenAI land, the company is beginning to roll out GPT 4.5 to plus-tier users. The rollout is a bit slow, but they're worried about people having a bad experience.

Sam Altman writes,

I think people are still figuring out exactly what 4.5 is good for. Certainly, it is in a totally different class when it comes to writing, which is great because that's a key use case for me. And it sounds like I'm not the only one having an experience where even if it's not some step change better than the rest, it has some very specific uses that are really good. Lastly today, some M&A news. Cloud provider CoreWeave has agreed to acquire developer platform weights and biases for around $1.7 billion.

WNB is one of the leading providers of model training, fine-tuning, and deployment tools. On the model deployment side, they work with over 1,400 organizations to deploy and monitor AI in production. And overall, the platform is used by over a million AI engineers. CoreWeave is, of course, headed into a much-anticipated IPO. And in advance of that, one of the challenges that while they've seen massive top-line growth, 700% over the last year, reaching $1.9 billion in revenue,

Half of that came from Microsoft and another quarter from NVIDIA. And so maybe they're looking to weights and biases as a way to diversify their customer base. Constellation Research writes that the play here is an end-to-end complete solution. They write, enterprises want a turnkey cloud platform that lets them build and operate their next-gen AI applications and do everything associated with them in one place. And that's what CoreWeave aims to give them.

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Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief. Today we have a story that honestly isn't even really all that big. It's a leak from a deck that says a thing that might happen in the future but isn't for sure happening. But the amount of conversation that it has generated with wildly divergent points of view actually gives us a little bit of a preview into a very near future and serves as a jumping off point for a really interesting conversation around how agents are going to be integrated into the workforce and how they are going to be priced.

So the specific catalyst for this conversation is a report in the information that OpenAI is planning on charging up to $20,000 a month for agents. Now this all comes, it appears, from conversations in DEX for investors. What's notable about that is simply the fact that OpenAI have, of course, an incentive to suggest the high end of what they think the pricing might be for these agents, given that those price tags are probably embedded in their rather high revenue projections.

So what did the information actually see? Well, apparently OpenAI is planning on selling low-end agents, which are the equivalent of what they call high-income knowledge workers, for around $2,000 per month. Mid-tier agents for specifically software development could cost $10,000 a month. And their highest tier of agents, acting according to these sources as PhD-level research assistants, could cost $20,000 a month.

The information source says that OpenAI expects somewhere between a fifth and a quarter of the company's revenue to ultimately come from agent products.

As you might imagine, these big eye-bulging numbers definitely caught people's attention. ChubbyOnX writes, "...a corporation will only pay these prices if it receives a corresponding value from the agents and I trust OpenAI to deliver. In any case, these costs indicate that the upcoming agents, like the software engineering agent, are really so good that they can easily replace humans and are more productive in doing so. Otherwise, the prices would not be justifiable."

And this is, I think, one really important takeaway. If OpenAI actually does bring an agent to market that is priced at anywhere near these prices, it is absolutely priced in a way that companies are going to have to view it as labor replacement.

Many pointed out, though, as did Hugh Pham here, in case you've forgotten, most PhD students, including the brightest stars who can do way better work than any current LLMs, are not paid $20,000 a month. Saleha Kamal, PhD, writes, instead of an OpenAI agent, you can hire me for the affordable price of $10,000 a month. Alexander Doria didn't really buy the framing. OpenAI should really stop with the PhD-level routine. If you're selling $20,000 a month for some software model bundled agent for targeted industries, just say so.

Gregalia Rose points out,

I think when it comes to the anthropic encoding piece, let's hold that aside because you have to think that OpenAI is planning on being at parity or state-of-the-art when it comes to those things. Whether they can get there or not, who knows? But I think that this pricing is sort of predicated upon that.

When it comes to the PhD making a fraction of 20K stuff, this one is hard for me to really analyze without having seen the actual materials. My guess is that OpenAI is either not really explaining accurately what they mean when they say PhD-level researcher, or it's being lost in translation.

To the extent that they're charging $20,000 a month, which is a quarter million dollars a year for an agent, you have to think that this thing is not just a one-to-one replacement for a researcher, even a really high-end researcher. It has to be seen as something that can do far more. In other words, this isn't 20K replacing one person. This is 20K who's replacing, I don't know, five people or something like that.

I should also caveat right now that when I say replacement, I'm talking about the dynamics of how people are thinking about the pricing, not advocating A, that companies fire their people for agents, or B, even predicting that that's how it's going to play out.

As I've said many times, I think that the companies that succeed in this next era are going to be those who realize that they can do way more with AI and literally invent the future. And that the companies who just view it as cost savings are going to have a very short-term gain followed by incredible destruction and out-competition. But still, I think it's an important heuristic to understand this pricing as based on the human labor equivalent that it could do the work of.

However, one of the things that I think is going to be really difficult is to try to ground the price of these agents in terms of the value they deliver as opposed to the cost to run them.

Clearly, OpenAI is thinking that they're going to be able to say, hey, this agent can do as much as your other labor, but at half to a tenth of the cost. However, as many pointed out, including Gergely here, it's very likely that competition is going to come in and use cost as a strategic advantage. If running that agent doesn't cost anywhere near close to $20K and someone can offer it for more like $500 a month, you better believe that they're going to.

Now, will OpenAI's agents be so much better that they're worth the premium? It's totally possible. But will they be worth a 40x premium, a 4x premium, a 2x premium, a 50% premium? That's what will remain to be seen. My base case is that competition is going to drive the cost down radically.

And as I've expressed before, such as in the Doctor Strange episode, I think that the paradigm of thinking about one-to-one replacement for task done by human to task done by agent is going to be a very, very temporary way of thinking when we look back when the story of agents is all written. Some point out that for those companies that are going to charge less, it's actually a gift that OpenAI wants to charge so much.

Omvats writes, OpenAI launching models at 2K to 20K is going to act like free marketing for startups building vertical AI agents. Not every business can afford a 20K agent, but most can afford $500. No better time to build than this.

I think this is absolutely true. I think that the market is going to fill in options for all budgets very, very quickly. I also think that because the cost of building a startup is coming down so much, you really are going to see hyper-verticalization and really, really specific customization that sits on top of models that, if not state-of-the-art, are pretty damn close and either has access to specialized data or, more likely, specialized knowledge and UI UX patterns that fit within the business routines or perhaps the other types of software that specific verticals are already using.

Indeed, Dinos writes,

And the one other part of the story is that I think while OpenAI is saying right now that 20 to 25% of their revenue will be coming from agents, I wouldn't be surprised if they think, or at least have a casual inclination to think, that it might end up as even more of that. As we see the commoditization of foundation models happen in real time, where no one really has a state-of-the-art advantage for more than a few weeks or a few months, companies like OpenAI are going to have to own some part of the customer experience.

Now, OpenAI, for their part, has a pretty serious stranglehold on the consumer chatbot space right now. Obviously, even Anthropic and Google haven't really been able to make a dent in chat GPT. The biggest competitor that they've had really is DeepSeek because DeepSeek made a much better model available for free. Anthropic, as we've talked about, is clearly trying to lock in the software engineer audience and leveraging the advantage that they do seem to have there from a technical perspective to really anchor their business in that area.

I think OpenAI is going to aggressively go after high business value agents. I think we're going to see them have specific customized vertical sales agents and likely agents for a bunch of other verticals as well. I don't think in this case that that means that people who are building vertical agents should just stop. I think that it's going to be a rich competitive landscape with lots of vectors for competition, price just being one of them. And as I mentioned before, the opportunities for incredibly niche customization are going to be more viable than ever before.

Still, the whole conversation points to a really interesting moment at the very dawn of this agentic era. And it will be interesting to see by the time these agents actually come to market what the price really is. For now, that's going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Until next time, peace.