Episode 6
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The Why Tesla Model Y Podcast. If you are a prospective Model Y buyer, a Model Y owner, or frankly just can't get enough on Tesla and the Model Y in general, then you are in the right spot. Here at the Why Tesla Model Y Podcast, we primarily follow the weekly happenings and news over on the r slash Tesla Model Y subreddit,

Back when I was in the market for a Tesla, I was actually searching endlessly for a podcast solely focused on the Model Y, which didn't exist. So I ended up on Reddit and other forums to learn more about the vehicle. However, I've always preferred audio content versus scrolling, especially on my daily 30 plus minute commute. So if you resonate with any of what I just mentioned, you are in the right place.

It is March 18th, 2024. This is episode 6. Right before I jump into it, I do want to mention apologies for the audio on the previous podcast. There were what sounded like 17,000 leaf blowers right outside my window. I didn't think the mic would pick that up. Unfortunately, it did. So apologies for...

The audio quality, unfortunately, same thing today. There's construction going on across the street. So if you hear what sounds like a wailing child or a fire truck siren, don't be alarmed. Apologies in advance. I'm trying to turn and tune the mic to where it doesn't pick that up. But just know that that's what it is. Apologies in advance.

Without further ado, episode six, let's jump right into the post that caught my attention over this past week. Kind of breaking my own rules here a little bit. This first post that caught my attention, this was actually from the r slash Tesla lounge subreddit. So not to divert attention away from the Tesla Model Y, but

Really, this is a great community as well. It's separate from, of course, the r slash Tesla Model Y subreddit. This one is really more so, as the name suggests, a lounge for all Tesla owners, fanatics, prospective buyers across all different models to hang out and lounge in one place. So the post here that caught my attention was from user rxdrjwl.

The title reads "Full Self-Driving 12.3 is Pushed to Customers Wide Release." So, as it suggests, there's a massive update to the full self-driving capability and software, and a software update that was pushed.

The post itself reads, finally get to try it on a 2024 Model X. I'm a little concerned about my legacy 2016 Model S getting it. It's on 11 and a 2024 firmware already. I have a feeling this AI thing may only be for AP4. Anyone have an older car on V12?

So really the body of that post isn't why it caught my attention, more so it was a massive seemingly upgrade but update to full self-driving software capabilities was pushed. So I wanted to see has this improved the user experience, do folks actually think it's worth it?

Again, if you've been hanging out, searching through forums, searching through Reddit in regard to anything Tesla, some of the software, a lot of folks do not think that full self-driving is worth the effort.

What is it? I think $12,000 in additional expense at this point. Because it's still a bit spotty on city roads, red lights, stop signs, things of the sort. But it seems like this update was a massive, massive improvement from where full self-driving technology was at just a few weeks ago.

So the most upvoted comment on this post is from user abomb1997. It reads, I just drove across my little town, which is notoriously impossible for full self-driving to be able to navigate safely. And it made the two mile drive through the neighborhoods completely effortlessly with zero interventions for the first time ever.

pedestrians, bike riders, soccer moms pulling out in the middle of the lane, and an intersection which was just added that is not on maps yet, no striped lanes, weird crosswalk bulb outs, all handled effortlessly and driven like an adult driver, not a crazy teenager with a learner's permit. I've had the beta since the very beginning and had genuinely written this off as something that would likely ever truly come to fruition.

I stand corrected. This is actually going to happen with an exclamation point.

So really, really good feedback there. Granted, yes, it was only a two mile drive, but this sounds like a user that can at least speak to how the full self-driving software has improved over time. It sounds like when it was first rolled out, especially in this little town where there's stop signs, there's crosswalks, there's unmarked roads, city driving is the true challenge or perhaps rural driving if that's where this...

user lives. But it sounds like with this update, again, it's software update, well, at least for full self-driving, 12.3 is the version. Sounds like a massive improvement. There's a...

This is actually the OP that replied to that comment that I just read. And they said,

And the people who had it since 12.1 have mentioned it's improved remarkably on 12.2 and 12.3. So I can hardly wait to see the future at this point.

Second drive to Winco, it failed one U-turn. I'm excited about them bringing reverse into the equation. I feel it's better than 90% of human drivers already. With reverse availability today, in my opinion, it's better than 95% of normal human drivers. Not sure if it can ever be better than a very aggressive driver, though, because it's too cautious and safe, which, well, is a good thing.

So I won't read any more comments on there. I think that is the post I wanted to lead off with for this episode. Given that full self-driving is, I mean, it's what Tesla's are known for, whether you have just standard autopilot or you paid...

shoot the 12,000 or some variable number for the full self-driving capability. It's what you think of when you think Tesla is software. So to see that this is actually becoming a reality, not just some vaporware that will eventually turn into full self-driving capability, but something that even on unmarked roads, difficult drives, it seems like it holds up pretty dang well with this new software update. So

User Rxdrjwl, one of the full self-driving users, buyers, adopters from the very beginning. Thank you for that update there. Next post that caught my attention this past week was from, this is back into the Tesla Model Y subreddit. This is from user colsandersloveskfc.

Tough name. Title of the post reads $1,000 price increase starting April 1st, 2024 for all trims. So as the title and the name suggests, basically it's a screenshot of the actual Tesla site. And it's just a small blurb in there that says prices will increase by $1,000 for all Model Y trims on April 1st.

$7,500 tax credit still applies. There's also a bit in here which is pretty neat about, again, it seems like a Q1 2024 incentive of take delivery of a new Model Y by March 31st and receive 5,000 free supercharging miles for cash or a finance purchase. Additionally, trade in a vehicle and receive another 5,000 free supercharging miles for

when you order by March 19th and take delivery by March 31st. So this podcast is being recorded on March 18th. It'll be released on March 18th.

That basically means you need to get that order in by tomorrow to capitalize on those additional 5,000 free supercharging miles. But that first one I think still applies and will to most folks. If you take delivery of a new Model Y by the end of March, March 31st, 5,000 free supercharging miles, whether you cash purchase or finance. But anyway, why I wanted to call this post out was because for the first time in a while, we see that

Tesla's rolling out mass increases on all trim levels for the Model Y. What seemed like, shoot, the past six months at least, second half or at least final quarter of 2023, it seemed like every week we were seeing

discounts across Model Y trims on the pre-existing inventory, but also on newer models where they were slashing by $1,000, by $2,000, by 15%, by 20% off of standard MSRP, in addition to everything that you see within the Tesla Model Y subreddit, which was flooded with

wow, I'm seeing 6K off sticker price. Is anybody else seeing this? Or I found one in the used inventory with, yes, a $2,000 transportation fee, but look at the massive slash in price there is on this particular model. I feel like we've seen that for the past three, six, maybe up to nine months. So this is in my short time following Tesla's

you know, as tightly as I do now, this is the first time I've seen the price increases. Obviously, I see in the Model Y subreddit folks that bought the Model Y, you know, in the middle of COVID when it was $60,000, $65,000, $55,000. And since then, we've seen tons of price decreases, which you got to think led to it being the most expensive

purchased and best-selling vehicle in 2023 in the world. And so interesting to see that, especially the timing of this price increase, given that it comes on April 1st, it could just be a ploy to push Q1 sales. I mean, that's exactly what it seems to be is, hey, right when Q1 ends, we're raising the price back to where we need it.

So long story short, if you're in the market, you're thinking about pulling the trigger on a Model Y, granted it's only $1,000 difference, but you have until the end of March to rely on the price points that you see. Granted, they vary seemingly every single day, especially for that used inventory. Whereas the longer those vehicles sit, it seems like they knock off a few hundred bucks every single day. It was what I noticed when I was in the market.

um so interesting to see an inflection point here end of q1 2024 prices are jumping up by about a thousand bucks will be interesting to follow that to see if as months and quarters go on do they keep increasing prices and you know um

For myself, I'm thinking, okay, did I purchase at the absolute best time where we saw a peak during COVID, we saw continued price decreases in 2023, start of 2024, and then now is this that inflection point where it's bottomed out, and now it's just going to take that up into the right path and start increasing? Hard to say, but will be interesting to see, and at least we know this is the first checkpoint of end of Q1, prices are going to increase by $1,000.

One of the comments on here I'll read says, "Honestly, if they increase anymore, it is better to just wait for the refresh. I'd rather pay a higher price for the refresh than pay for the increased price of an older model." Fair. I think that's a fair comment. I was ready to roll with getting into a Model Y and wasn't ready to wait until

you know, late 2024, 2025, 2026 before an actual Juniper Model Y refresh is even rolled out, let alone going to market and being shipped. But fair point if you have the patience.

All right, next post that caught my attention of this past week, and I've only got two more and then I want to jump into a couple other quick things. But this third post that caught my attention of this past week was from user sexcopter posted two days ago. It reads initial thoughts after two weeks with new 2024 Model Y long range versus a 2020 Model Y long range.

Bear with me, it's a rather lengthy post, but why I want to read this is for folks that perhaps you're in the situation, you purchased the first edition Model Y back in 2020, or maybe you have an earlier model like I do, a 2021, or even a 2022, and you're thinking, okay, the price is as low as they are, is it worth trading in my older model to get the improved suspension, some of the newer features with the 2023, 2024 models,

So if that's you, or if you're just simply a prospective buyer thinking, man, do I go with one of these older, cheaper models? Or with that tax incentive, it's only a few thousand bucks more. Do I just get one of the new ones? So bear with me, long post, but I think really, really helpful to contrast the differences between the 2020 and 2024 Model Y Long Range.

This post reads, I recently traded in my 2020 Model Y Long Range for basically an identical 2024 and just wanted to share my thoughts on the experience so far. I figured the best way to go about this is a simple list of differences I can remember and overall pros and cons. Here's a list of the things the 2024 has or does that my 2020 did not.

One, double pane glass makes the cabin noise much lower.

I will say what I love about this and this is a side note here is that I got the 2021 model. You do have the double pane glass on the front two windows of the cabin in the 2021 Model Y. At least I had a late 2021 build. I'm not sure if that applies to all, but that double pane glass 100%, it does make that cabin pretty quiet.

Number two, lithium 12-volt battery. So this is the small battery that you would essentially jumpstart if it dies. Supposedly it'll last longer, so sounds speculative there. Number three, rear cargo cover comes standard and not even an option on the 2020 without going third-party.

Side note again, but one thing I'll add there is that that is something I immediately thought that I would get was a rear cargo cover, prevent theft, people looking into the vehicle, seeing anything in my trunk, etc.,

However, the factory, I won't say tint, but the coloring of the rear windows is so dark, at least on this 2021 Model Y long range that I have. Granted, I have the black interior, not the white, that it's very, very tough to even see into the trunk with the vehicle's factory colored as is.

So I didn't end up going with that rear cargo cover. It's not as necessary as I thought it would be. So just a note there. Number four, center console is much nicer overall in appearance and material quality. It just feels much nicer than the old one with hard plastic. So to add to that, the 2020 model, and I believe very early 2021 models had that dark black, glossy piano black center console.

What I like about mine is, again, I've got a late 2021 build, but it has that almost satin gray colored center console, which they've carried over to 2022, 23 and 24 models as well. So 100% agree. While I didn't personally see, I've only seen it on videos that piano black 2020 style center console. The gray is much more attractive in my opinion.

5. External speaker is nice since it supports boombox, lock sounds, etc. 6. No panel gaps to speak of compared to my early 2020 which I had to have both a rear door and the hatch adjusted.

Number seven, newer MCU hardware seems more fluid and future proof. Overall interior hardware quality seems better. Steering wheel, stocks, window buttons, and everything else just seems tighter and higher quality. Base cost was $4,500 cheaper than I paid for my 2020.

Combined with a $7,500 tax rebate and $2,500 off for having one local makes it dramatically cheaper out the door. Number 10, new ultra red paint colors incrementally nicer than the multi-coat red I had in my 2020. It looks about the same at first glance, but is very different under bright lighting. Number 11, I've heard that the suspension changes over time.

Let me back up. I have heard these have suspension changes over the early models. The 2024 he's referencing. I'm not sure what, but it certainly seems to drive very smoothly, quietly, and just feels more solid on the road. Number 12, rear seat belt sockets are apparently different. I can now use extenders to make it easier for passengers to buckle in. They would not lock in my previous car.

Number 13, Matrix headlights are pretty cool. For now, they don't seem to do anything exotic, but future updates are supposed to change that. Side note there, in the r slash tesla lounge section,

subreddit. I saw a really, really neat example and demonstration video of the matrix headlights in action. They're pretty dang sweet. I can't remember the user, so apologies on that, but go check out that Tesla lounge subreddit. There's a really, really cool video of those matrix headlights in action and how they're adaptive when cars are oncoming and how it adjusts

the brightness and where to aim those headlights with cars that are oncoming.

Alright, to wrap up this post, it says,

Cons, I miss my ultrasonic sensors and camera-based vision sucks. Windshield wipers behavior is still crap. So, interesting post. Like I said, I think it's mostly applicable for folks that do currently own an older model Tesla Model Y or those that are in the market of do I buy one of these older models

used cheaper models or do I spend a few extra thousand dollars and go with one of the newer 2023 or 2024 models? I won't read any of the comments because I know that was a long enough post in general. I just felt like that was a necessary perspective to share because I know a lot of folks are in that same boat of, like I just said, do I buy one of those older models or do I shell out a few extra thousand for a newer one?

All right, final post that caught my attention over this past week, then two other things to get into quickly. This one is from user Motron3030. The title reads, Went the All-Terrain Route. It's got four gorgeous looking photos of a gray Tesla Model Y. It's got to be in California as it's got that

key looking HOV or Express Toll Lane sticker on it, but a really good looking car. It's got the what look like the Uber turbine

wheels however they look smaller so these may be just simply hubcaps that were popped on but anyway let's read through the post it reads my 2022 long range Model Y needed some tires so I decided to pull the trigger on some Falcon Wild Peak all-terrain trail tires in 255 50 19 setup

My initial impressions after 400 miles, the ride is noticeably smoother. The tires seem to soak up minor imperfections and larger bumps much better. I haven't noticed any tire noise. Grip feels good. Traction on and off road is great and steering feels much better. Also, there's no rubbing and the car gets about an inch lift, which works nice for this setup.

With that said, some issues. The car is noticeably more lethargic accelerating due to the additional weight at each corner, about 10 pounds per, and the range takes a substantial hit. Excuse me. My initial estimate is about 30 to 40% worse. Despite those cons, I would probably do this setup again if I had to. Really gives the car a more purposeful look and additional usability. Cheers. So, um...

Again, I mention this every time. I wish I could show you a picture on a podcast, but would recommend going to check this out. Again, it was posted a day ago. So March 17th by user Motron3030. The title reads, Went the All-Terrain Route. I think just take a look at the vehicle itself.

I really like the look of the all-terrain wheels on a Tesla. It's rare that you see those out in public, but I think it gives it more utility for sure. However, what immediately turned me off from this post was as I read through it, hearing that the range takes a massive hit. Granted, he or she says that my initial estimate is about 30% to 40% worse.

That's massive. I mean, every mile of range counts in EVs. I mean, that's, you know, thinking of why a lot of us go from the standard rear wheel drive to the all wheel drive dual motor long range is really for the difference of, I mean, about 40 miles. I believe it is maybe 50 or 60 at most.

but real world range. I mean, we're getting right around 300, maybe just under depending on, on weather conditions. Um, but hearing that throwing these tires on all terrain tires that, that, that,

look pretty awesome. Definitely added to the aesthetic. Like I said, a lot more utility, a lot more function, better grip. What I love hearing is that it's noticeably smoother. So going over minor imperfections, larger bumps, you don't feel it as much as those performance thin tires that come with the, especially the 20 inch or even 21 inch wheels, the induction or the Uber turbine.

So that's brutal, the 30 to 40% range hit, but it sounds like there's some pros. So honestly, if you're not using this as a road trip driver, you do take it off road every now and then or want to and keep it pretty local. You have home charging.

This wouldn't be a bad way to go. I'm sure you'd take a range hit, but if you can charge at home, low cost, you don't necessarily need the 300 plus miles of range. It's really a great look and obviously adds some function as well.

but yeah range hit that's tough that's tough to overcome so um at the very least motron 30 30 thanks for posting uh i think it's insightful for those of us considering all-terrain tires vehicle looks fantastic um

granted those estimates may be a little bit off of 30-40% of a range hit, you gotta think once the car settles in, it adjusts its estimates, perhaps, and I believe this user even posted that, the hit may be more like 20-25%. Granted, that's still pretty dang substantial. Given that roughly only

60% of the battery and the range is operable for daily driving because the goal is to keep it between 20% to 80% at all times. Taking 25% off of that is tricky and really, really cuts down on the total range. So great look, some great functionality and utility added. However, massive range hit, which is unfortunate. But thanks to the post, nonetheless, Motron 3030.

All right, a couple other things to share. One final item to share, at least of things that caught my attention over the past week. It was actually, again, not a post in the Tesla Model Y subreddit, but it was actually from Twitter, from X. This made news and many articles picked it up, but this was actually a post from just seemingly a random Tesla owner back on March 1st.

The tweet itself reads, The following day, at about 9.41pm, Elon replied to that tweet and just said, Sure.

Granted, Elon's a bit erratic on Twitter at times and can fire off quick replies as a few other folks noted in regard to the auto wipers of, hey, can we get functioning auto wipers? Granted, I haven't seen it myself, but supposedly there was a reply there along the same lines of sure or working on it or noted. But it seems like that's still...

an issue for most folks is the auto wiper functionality on on teslas and particularly particularly the the model y however this is encouraging to see um i think for this situation in particular um given how easy it is within a with within an apple watch to to click on a couple apps uh unlock the car uh

Open the trunk, open the frunk, whatever you may need. It seems like relatively an easy update or app to throw there on the watch. There's other apps that provide similar functionality I've never had luck with. One is just the Simple Shortcuts app on the Apple Watch in the App Store. There's a few others that you can pay for that supposedly provide this functionality I've never dabbled in, so I can't speak to those.

But agree here with this post on OnX from looks like Danielle. The basic says, hey, can we get a native Tesla app on the Apple Watch?

Sounds like it's now in Elon's mind how long that takes to come to fruition. Is it in the next update? Is it a couple years down the road? Who knows? But good to see that he's acknowledged it. He's listening to the community and it sounds like potentially going to develop that in the months and years to come. So no timeline on that, but I thought that was an interesting read and interesting one to share. Before I get into the last item I had for today, I want to jump into the why of the week.

This is one that I believe it was one of the top posts of all posts from this past week. So if you logged on to the Tesla Model Y subreddit over the past week, you probably saw it. But this is from user stormtrooper_000. Title reads, "She's thick." The post itself says, "Finally got around to putting my carbon fiber diffuser on and sequential bumper tail lights."

absolutely beautiful looking car. So this is one, it doesn't look like a wrap, perhaps it is, but it looks like just some green paint on the vehicle, so the

The car is green, it's a lighter green, almost kind of a military army looking green, a little bit lighter. It's got some black detail, obviously the black rear spoiler, the carbon fiber diffuser that looks great, blacked out dual motor badge, a blacked out license plate.

that reads no hands with two Zs and then replaced the T Tesla logo on the rear hatch, the trunk, and just this user put in the five letter Tesla logo

phonetically spelled out wording that again is blacked out. So back black badging all the way around looks phenomenal. That carbon fiber diffuser looks phenomenal. It looks like the car has been lowered a bit as well. Not sure if this is a Model Y performance or not that comes a bit lower, but only photos of the rear looks absolutely fantastic. So shout out stormtrooper_000

Wins my why of the week. Absolutely phenomenal looking car. For what it's worth, one of these days when I eventually do a wrap, some sort of dark army green or perhaps all black. I haven't decided yet as to what I want to do eventually. But I love that green color.

should I say black on green, the black detailing, the black badging, black carbon fiber diffuser, black spoiler, looks really, really good to compliment the green. So great looking vehicle to that user there. Congrats on winning the why of the week.

The final thing I wanted to get into for episode six before we wrap up is over on Spotify. I mentioned it before, but I do a poll for every single episode. And so I personally listen on Apple podcasts. But even if you do listen on Apple podcasts, which I think most of our listeners do, go pop over to Spotify for each episode. I'll put a poll on every single episode and I want to run through some of the

poll results for the polls I've posted so far. But before I do that, I will have a poll up for this episode, for episode six, and it's going to be centered on full self-driving. Basically, for Model Y owners or even prospective buyers, which Model Y autopilot full self-driving software do you have or will you have?

whether that be just the standard autopilot's good for you. Do you prefer the enhanced autopilot or do you prefer full self-driving? And why or why not? Because the thought is I think everybody would prefer to at least have full self-driving, but do I want to pay $12,000 for it or $6,000 for enhanced autopilot? Probably not.

So we'll be interesting to see and hear y'all's feedback there. So please pop over to Spotify, go vote on that quick poll for episode six and really all the prior polls as well. I've kept those open. There's also a Q&A section where you can just provide open forum feedback. It's not published. It's just simply providing what you want to hear more of, less of, topics for future podcasts, things of that sort.

So let's start with episode one. The first poll that I put out just simply reads what best describes you. Are you a Model Y owner, a Model Y perspective buyer? Are you just curious or I don't know how I got here. 60% of the votes were Model Y perspective buyer. As I mentioned at the very beginning of the podcast, that is why I created the podcast in general is why when I was a perspective buyer back in January,

I prefer audio content. I absolutely love the r slash Tesla Model Y subreddit for every question and every item I could possibly think of in regard to the Tesla Model Y, but really was searching for a podcast that was focused on it, just a different medium and version of content that I could absorb just to casually learn more about the vehicle, about different models, about

as I was in the market. So it's good to see that resonates with some other folks as well. 60% of those voters are Model Y prospective buyers, whereas 40% of the voters are Model Y owners. So welcome to y'all as well. Episode two, the poll that I posted, if all were priced the same, would you still prefer a Model Y? Answer one says yes. Answer two says Model 3. There's Model S, Model X, or Cybertruck.

Granted, we've had very few voters on this poll so far, so go make your opinions known, but 100% of the respondents thus far have answered Cybertruck. Is it just a hot new thing that everybody wants to try and everybody, if it was priced the same, would prefer? Or is there a way to that? I mean, it's interesting to see that Cybertrucks are being shipped, folks are taking deliveries, overpriced.

And overwhelmingly, I haven't seen a negative review on them yet. Most folks seem to love them. So interesting to see that 100% of the respondents there on that poll, even though they're listening to a Model Y podcast, would prefer a Cybertruck if it was priced the same. Episode three, the poll that I posted was, what is your Model Y interior preference? Simply black or white?

66% of the respondents responded with black as their preference. And that's frankly my preference. That's what I have on my black Model Y Long Range. So I do prefer black as well. It also helps with visibility into the vehicle. So whether your vehicle's tinted or not, you can get away with a lighter tint if you have the black interior. Whereas if you have the white interior,

While it can look great, it stands out like a sore thumb. So even if you've got a pretty dark tint, it's still pretty easy to see inside the vehicle, where if you have the black on black, it's tougher to see in, so it's easier, for instance, to hide valuables from plain sight. 33% of the respondents put white on that pole.

Next poll, episode four was what is your Model Y exterior preference? Black, white, blue, gray, red, a wrap or PPF?

Again, very few respondents to this one. However, the vote is completely split four different ways. 25% of the respondents put black, 25% put gray, 25% put a wrap, and then 25% put PPF.

So still up in the air, but zero votes for white, blue, or red. So obviously I know there's folks that absolutely love and die by those colors. So make your opinions known there on that poll as well. Again, it's still open. All of these polls are still open over on Spotify. And then episode five, the final poll that I posted, given the recent news and the recent unveiling of the R2 and R3 by Rivian, the question just simply asked, which Rivian model would you consider?

The R1T, which is the truck for $70,000. The R1S, which is the seven-seat SUV that they have at the moment. You see some on the road here and there. That one is a whopping $75,000. The R2, which is the new five-seat SUV that will be released, I think they said early 2026, for what they estimate will be $45,000.

Do you prefer the R3, which I didn't see a price point that was known on that one. You've got to think it's $38,000, $39,000 range. Or final option is Tesla all the way.

50% of the respondents selected the R2, which is that one that is set to directly compete with the Model Y, same price point, similar style, similar specs cargo-wise and space-wise, that five-seat SUV.

So interesting to see there. I mean, simply based on a very small sample size of the respondents to this poll, all the pre-orders that they got over 60,000 in one day for the R2, it seems like the R2 will be legit competition to the Model Y if they can release it at that price point.

So 50% of the respondents said they would consider the R2. 25% of the respondents selected the Rivian truck, the R1T is what they would consider at that 70K price point. And then one respondent said,

responded Tesla all the way. So shout out to you, my guy or woman for listening to the podcast and being a diehard Tesla fanatic and riding with Tesla, even when these competitors are releasing new vehicles that do look pretty attractive.

Those are the polls. I wanted to pull back the curtain a bit on those and share what some of the feedback has been across the community. As always, I appreciate you guys for tuning in. I appreciate y'all's time. As I mentioned, pop over to Spotify. Whether you listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, you can always submit your answers to that poll or fill out the blank free text section Q&A just to leave me feedback and let me know what you want to hear on the next few episodes.

Other than that, appreciate y'all's time. You guys have a great rest of the day.