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#106 AI, UX & Sustainability: Designing a Future That Works for Everyone with Thorsten Jonas

2025/3/27
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Torsten Jonas: 我致力于可持续UX设计和负责任AI的应用。我的工作涵盖课程、研讨会和咨询,旨在帮助人们了解数字技术的负面环境影响,并寻求更可持续的设计方法。可持续UX的核心在于平衡用户体验与更广泛的生态系统影响,避免优秀用户体验以牺牲他人或环境为代价。数字产品和体验的碳足迹不容忽视,互联网的碳排放量已超过航空业。我们需要改变思维模式,将用户和产品视为更大系统的一部分,并努力减少其负面影响。这需要透明度和可见性,让更多人了解数字世界的环境成本。此外,我们需要改变将可持续性仅仅视为成本因素的观念,将其视为机遇。通过提高透明度,并了解可持续性对业务的积极影响,我们可以推动变革。我们需要让大型科技公司为其产品带来的环境影响付出真正的代价,而不是让其他人承担后果。对于设计师而言,评估网站的碳排放量是第一步,可以通过调整图像格式、减少不必要的视频等方式来降低碳足迹。在未来科技(元宇宙、AI集成等)方面,我们需要质疑技术驱动的未来愿景,并思考其对人类和环境的影响。AI的生态影响巨大,数据中心消耗大量能源和水资源。我们需要批判性地思考AI的应用场景,避免过度使用。教育至关重要,我们需要帮助人们了解AI的工作原理,以及如何负责任地使用AI。在设计团队中整合AI时,首先要评估其潜在的积极和消极影响,并确定其在特定用例中的价值。在使用AI之前,需要进行充分的思考和规划,而不是仅仅依赖于提示词。 Patricia Reiners: 我认同可持续性在数字产品设计中的重要性,并关注如何平衡商业需求、用户需求和环境可持续性。当前,可持续性并非关键绩效指标(KPI),许多大型科技公司并未重视可持续发展。为了推动可持续发展,我们需要提高透明度,让更多人了解数字技术的负面影响,并将其视为商业机遇。政府监管也至关重要。对于设计师而言,需要从小的方面入手,例如优化图像压缩格式、减少不必要的视频等,来降低数字产品的碳足迹。在未来科技(元宇宙、AI集成等)方面,我们需要谨慎对待,避免过度使用AI,并关注其环境影响。AI工具的便利性可能会导致其被滥用,我们需要教育人们如何负责任地使用AI,并批判性地思考AI的应用场景。我们需要关注AI模型的控制权、数据的使用以及潜在的偏见等问题。欧盟在推动数字可持续性方面相对滞后,但我们仍需努力,提高透明度,并开发更负责任的AI模型。

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This chapter explores the concept of sustainable UX, highlighting that a great user experience shouldn't come at the cost of harming others or the environment. It emphasizes the hidden environmental impact of digital products, such as high energy consumption from servers and the carbon footprint of the internet.
  • Sustainable UX considers the impact of digital products on the wider ecosystem.
  • The internet's carbon footprint exceeds that of the airline industry.
  • Balancing user needs with business needs and environmental concerns is crucial for sustainable design.

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AI is transforming the way we design and build digital products—but at what cost? In this episode of The Future of UX, I’m joined (again!) by Torsten Jonas, founder of the Sustainable UX (SUX) Network, to explore how AI, UX, and sustainability intersect.

We’ll dive into:✅ Why sustainability in UX is about more than just “green” design✅ The hidden environmental cost of AI and digital products✅ How designers can create responsible and future-proof AI experiences✅ Practical tips to reduce carbon impact in digital projects

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