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297. Operation Downfall: The Invasion That Never Was

2025/6/18
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Saul David: 我认为“没落行动”的计划细节具有指导意义，尤其是在考虑使用原子弹结束战争的决定时。我们需要探讨该计划的各个方面，包括军事战略、政治因素以及最终导致杜鲁门总统决定使用原子弹的考量。 Robert Lyman: 我认为在1943年，对日作战的各方都清楚地认识到，要彻底击败日本，就需要占领其本土。为了击败日本，不仅要击败其军队、海军和空军，还要说服日本人民，他们发动战争的整个国家基础是错误的。攻击日本的计划分两个阶段进行，目标是攻占东京。占领日本的关键在于陆军和空军的胜利，而不是海军。麦克阿瑟是领导“没落行动”的合适人选，因为他意识到这不仅仅是赢得一场战斗，而是要赢得和平。日本只有在其本土和东京被占领后才会投降，因为这是向日本人民展示其军国主义冒险失败的唯一途径。杜鲁门总统被迫接受伤亡，并努力减轻这些伤亡。原子弹挽救了许多日本和美国人的生命，它们是带来盟军胜利的政治工具。最终的战争结局取决于对伤亡的考虑，包括盟军和日本人的伤亡。我认为杜鲁门和裕仁天皇都认为，继续战争是极其愚蠢的。

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In this episode of Battleground 45, Saul David speaks to Robert Lyman to delve into the meticulously planned, yet ultimately unexecuted, Allied invasion of Japan: Operation Downfall.

As the war in Europe drew to a close, the focus shifted to the Pacific, and the Allied command began preparing for an unprecedented assault on the Japanese home islands.

Together they explore the staggering scale of the proposed operation, the projected casualties on both sides, and the strategic dilemmas faced by Allied leaders.

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Producer: James Hodgson

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