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David Graham on Trump’s 'Strategy Behind the Chaos'

2025/2/6
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Nina Kim: 作为主持人,我认为特朗普政府正在使用一些策略来巩固权力。这些策略包括发布一些有争议的外交政策声明,发布一些行政命令,以及埃隆·马斯克在联邦机构制造的动荡。我们需要关注这些策略,并分析它们背后的战略。 David Graham: 作为大西洋杂志的专栏作家,我认为当前信息流动非常快,公众和新闻记者都难以跟上。尽管表面混乱,但背后有一定的计划。特朗普在危机中更像是一个评论者,而不是领导者。意识形态助手在政府中扮演重要角色,他们希望重塑政府运作方式。马斯克对政府运作有强烈的想法,尽管他对外交政策不感兴趣。法律是特朗普可以逃避的东西,他正在测试法律的界限。抗议活动可以团结反对派,但不太可能让特朗普改变主意。 Mina Kim: 作为主持人,我认为特朗普政府通过电子邮件和机构干预来扩大权力。国家捕获现象正在发生,私人利益正在影响政府决策。特朗普对某些政策领域非常感兴趣,但对其他领域漠不关心。民主党人低估了特朗普政府行动的速度,导致反应迟缓。马斯克的行动可能会破坏MAGA的长期计划,导致内部紧张。

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This chapter explores the initial reactions to the Trump administration's actions, characterizing them as chaotic yet potentially strategic. It discusses the challenges of tracking the flow of information and suggests there's an underlying plan.
  • Difficulty in tracking information due to numerous actions on multiple fronts.
  • Underlying plans, such as Project 2025, provide context.
  • Trump's passive approach, treating crises as opportunities for commentary rather than leadership.

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As Donald Trump makes provocative foreign policy statements and issues executive orders that are quickly walked back or challenged in court, and as Elon Musk creates upheaval in federal agencies, we look at the tactics the Trump Administration is using to consolidate power. Atlantic staff writer David Graham has been closely following Trump’s actions and argues that “chaos versus strategy is a misleading and unhelpful binary” to understand what’s happening. What have you noticed about Trump’s tactics this term, as compared to last?

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**David Graham, **staff writer, The Atlantic