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Forum from the Archives: Tommy Orange and Kaveh Akbar Celebrate their Artistic Mind Meld

2025/7/2
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Tommy Orange: 我和Kaveh的友谊始于一次偶然的相遇，但真正让我们走到一起的是对彼此作品的欣赏和鼓励。我一直鼓励Kaveh创作小说，而他也鼓励我尝试诗歌。我们每周都会分享彼此的创作，这种分享不是为了批判，而是为了互相支持，保持创作的动力。在创作《Wandering Stars》时，Kaveh的理解和支持对我非常重要，尤其是在我写关于成瘾的内容时。我希望通过我的作品，打破人们对成瘾的简单道德评判，让读者理解历史如何在当代人物的生活中重现。 Kaveh Akbar: 我和Tommy的相识源于他来我之前任职的学校做阅读。我负责接待他，起初很职业化，但一次在车里因为辛普森的趣事，我们开始像朋友一样交谈。Tommy的鼓励对我意义重大，能对抗我脑海中“你是个骗子”的声音。在创作《Martyr》期间，我每周读两本小说，每天看一部电影，以此来过渡到散文写作。我和Tommy会讨论从这些书中挖掘什么，学习叙事的构建。Tommy对我的影响最大，因为我写作时沉浸在他的声音中。我想写一个关于友谊的故事，爱不是有条件的，而是坚定不移的。

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Have you ever felt so creatively connected to someone that it’s like you share the same brain? That’s how acclaimed writers Tommy Orange and Kaveh Akbar describe their relationship. They’re best friends who wrote their recent novels “Wandering Stars” and “Martyr” by sending each other “cheernotes” in which they “waved [their] pom poms with genuine excitement at what the other’d just wrought from the ether,” as Akbar puts it. The two are embarking on a Bay Area driving tour to celebrate their friendship and art, and they join us on Forum.

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**Tommy Orange, **novelist, his books include "Wandering Stars" and "There There," which was a finalist for the 2019 Pulitzer Prize.

**Kaveh Akbar, **poet and novelist, his books include "Martyr!," a National Book Award finalist

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