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Los Angeles Fires Continue to Rage; Is Time Running Out for TikTok?

2025/1/9
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Anthony Edwards: 我是旧金山纪事报的新闻气象学家。我预测的这次天气事件是我年轻职业生涯中最令人担忧的。这场大火是洛杉矶县历史上破坏性最强的火灾,数千座建筑物被毁。强烈的圣塔安娜风和持续的干旱条件加剧了火势蔓延。未来几天,甚至几周内,洛杉矶的山区和山麓地区仍面临极高的火灾风险,因为预计还会有强风,并且没有降雨。 这场大火也突显了气候变化对加利福尼亚州的影响。持续的干旱和创纪录的高温为火灾的发生创造了条件。 这场大火提醒我们,需要采取措施来减少火灾风险,包括改善森林管理和加强消防准备工作。 Emily Baker-White: 我是福布斯的调查记者和高级撰稿人,目前正在撰写一本关于TikTok的书。美国国会通过的一项法案可能导致TikTok在美国被禁。该法案要求TikTok的中国母公司字节跳动出售TikTok,否则TikTok将在美国被禁。 美国政府对TikTok的担忧主要集中在两个方面:数据隐私和内容操纵。美国政府担心,中国政府可能会利用TikTok收集的美国用户数据来进行监控或宣传。美国政府还担心,中国政府可能会利用TikTok来操纵内容,从而影响美国用户的观点。 TikTok及其母公司字节跳动认为,这项法案侵犯了他们的言论自由权。他们认为,这项法案没有必要,并且存在不那么具有侵入性的替代方案。 美国最高法院将审理这项法案。法院的裁决将对TikTok的未来以及美国政府对外国科技公司监管的方式产生重大影响。 Jessica Levinson: 我是洛约拉法学院的法学教授,也是播客《判决通过》的主持人。这项法案的合法性存在争议。美国政府认为,这项法案是必要的,以保护美国国家安全。TikTok及其母公司字节跳动认为,这项法案侵犯了他们的言论自由权。 法院将需要权衡国家安全与言论自由之间的利益。法院还将需要确定,是否还有不那么具有侵入性的方法来解决美国政府对TikTok的担忧。 这项法案的审理结果将对美国政府对外国科技公司的监管方式产生重大影响。它还将对其他国家如何监管外国科技公司产生影响。

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Why are the Los Angeles fires considered the most destructive in the county's history?

The Palisades Fire near Malibu and the Eaton Fire north of Pasadena have each burned over 1,000 structures within less than 48 hours, making them the most destructive fires in Los Angeles County history.

What role do the Santa Ana winds play in the spread of the Los Angeles fires?

The Santa Ana winds, some of the strongest in 14 years, accelerate fire spread by pushing embers downwind. Gusts of up to 84 mph were recorded at Burbank Airport, with reports of 100 mph gusts in the San Gabriel Mountains.

Why is the U.S. government concerned about TikTok's ownership by ByteDance?

The U.S. government is concerned about data privacy and potential content manipulation, as TikTok’s Chinese ownership could allow the Chinese government to access user data or influence the app’s algorithm for propaganda or surveillance purposes.

What are the potential consequences if the Supreme Court does not intervene in the TikTok ban?

If the Supreme Court does not intervene, TikTok could be removed from U.S. app stores on January 19th, and users may see a message stating the app is no longer available in their country, similar to bans in India and Hong Kong.

What are the two main concerns lawmakers have about TikTok?

Lawmakers are primarily concerned about data privacy, as TikTok collects extensive user information, and the potential for content manipulation by the Chinese government through the app’s algorithm.

What is the relationship between wind speed and the speed of fire spread?

Fire spread speed is roughly 10% of the sustained wind speed. However, this rule breaks down at higher wind speeds, with fires potentially spreading at 10-20 mph in extreme cases, faster than people can run.

What is the legal basis for the U.S. government's attempt to force a sale of TikTok?

The U.S. government argues that TikTok’s Chinese ownership poses a national security risk, and Congress has broad leeway to address such concerns. The law requires ByteDance to sell TikTok or face a ban, though no exact legal precedent exists for this scenario.

What is the significance of the D.C. Circuit Court's decision regarding TikTok?

The D.C. Circuit upheld the law forcing TikTok’s sale, ruling that the government’s national security concerns justified the action and that no less restrictive means were available to address the issue.

What is the current weather outlook for Los Angeles and its impact on the fires?

The weather outlook remains dangerous, with strong winds expected to continue for days. Gusts of 50-70 mph are predicted, exacerbating fire risks, and no significant rain is forecasted in the next 10 days.

What is TikTok’s argument against the U.S. government’s forced sale law?

TikTok argues that the law infringes on its First Amendment rights and those of its creators. It claims the government has not proven a compelling interest or that the forced sale is the least restrictive means to address national security concerns.

Shownotes Transcript

Multiple wildfires continue to sweep through LA county, causing massive evacuations and the most destructive fires Los Angeles has ever seen. We’ll provide an update on the fires, and the fierce winds and weather conditions intensifying their spread.

Guests:

**Anthony Edwards, **newsroom meteorologist, SF Chronicle

On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court is set to take up TikTok’s appeal challenging a federal law that could effectively ban the popular social media app beginning on January 19. President-elect Donald Trump has asked the court to delay implementation of the law, which requires TikTok’s Chinese owner, ByteDance, to sell the social media company to an American firm. We’ll preview the arguments and look at what a ban could mean for the company and creators.

Guests:

**Emily Baker, **an investigative reporter and senior writer, Forbes; She is currently writing a book on TikTok.

**Jessica Levinson, **professor of law, Loyola Law School; host of the podcast “Passing Judgment; Website URL: PoLawTics.lls.edu