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Mac Barnett on Why Picture Books Are Real Literature

2025/3/21
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Aida Salazar
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Alexis Madrigal
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Catherine
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Laura G. Lee
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Mac Barnett
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Alexis Madrigal: 我认为图画书常常不被重视，人们认为它只是孩子成长过程中会‘毕业’的一种读物，而非真正的文学。 Mac Barnett: 我不同意这种观点。我认为图画书是真正的文学，优秀的图画书与任何伟大的文学作品一样具有艺术价值，但它们常常被误解和低估。图画书的独特之处在于文字和图画的结合，它们共同讲述故事，共同承担责任。好的图画书中，文字和图画之间通常会存在某种张力，它们承担不同的任务，有时甚至相互矛盾，这需要读者进行解读和思考。图画书的魅力在于文字和图画的结合，孩子需要同时聆听语言和观察图画才能理解故事。优秀的图画书中，图画有时会比文字提供更多信息，甚至两者会讲述不同的故事，让读者自己选择相信哪一个。图画书结合了语言艺术、视觉艺术和表演艺术，是一个多维的艺术形式。图画书还在发展中，文字越来越短，部分原因是人们对孩子注意力 span 的担忧。我童年的图画书阅读经历影响了我的写作风格，20世纪中叶是图画书实验的黄金时期。玛格丽特·怀斯·布朗是一位现代主义诗人，她发现自己可以为孩子们写作。她的老师认为她不适合当老师，但她有成为优秀儿童作家潜质。玛格丽特·怀斯·布朗认为孩子们是诗歌和文学的理想读者，他们比成年人更容易理解文学作品。孩子们能够快速理解成年人难以理解的情境，因为他们不断面临新的、不熟悉的境遇。儿童文学作品常常打破常规，孩子们能够勇敢地尝试理解这些作品。在儿童文学中，动物的角色设定需要遵循一定的规则，例如是否穿衣服、是否会说话等，这些规则通常通过图画来建立。图画书承认语言在描述世界和情感方面的局限性。图画书既是实体的文本，也是短暂的表演，其解读会因读者和听众而异。阅读图画书是一个社交活动，它通常发生在两个人或更多人之间。 Aida Salazar: 我认为图画书能够激发孩子的想象力和创造力，并以诗意的语言和意象来传达信息。图画书的朗读过程是创作过程的一部分，朗读者会通过声音效果等方式参与到故事的讲述中。当图画书成为家庭或课堂的一部分时，它会产生更深远的影响。一些图画书具有说教性，但并非所有图画书都是如此，好的图画书应该注重故事本身，而不是仅仅传递信息。 Laura G. Lee: 我认为图画书能够对孩子的心理产生持久的影响，并能帮助成年人重新审视世界，并重新思考一些重要的问题。孩子们关注的问题往往是人类共通的、深刻的问题。非虚构图画书也遵循图画书的创作模式，图画在解释信息方面发挥着重要作用。

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This chapter explores the question of whether picture books qualify as real literature. It challenges the notion that picture books are merely for children and argues for their artistic merit and literary value, highlighting the interplay between words and pictures and how this combination creates a unique reading experience.
  • Picture books are often undervalued and misunderstood.
  • The best picture books are considered artworks of great literary merit.
  • Words and pictures share responsibility in storytelling, sometimes creating tension or contradiction.
  • The picture book form is relatively young and still evolving.

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As the Library of Congress’s new National Ambassador for Young People’s Literature, Bay Area children’s author Mac Barnett wants to reframe how we think about picture books. With his platform, “Behold the Picture Book,” he’s championing the vital role picture books play in engaging readers of all ages and why we love them. What’s the picture book you love reading over and over and over?

Guests:

**Mac Barnett, **author of the children's books "Circle," "Square" and "Triangle" which have been made into a new animated series "Shape Island" on AppleTV+. Barnett is also the author of the "Mac B. Kid Spy" and the "Jack" series. His books have won Caldecott honors and E.B. White Read Aloud Awards.

**Aida Salazar, **children's book author. Her picture books include "Jovita Wore Pants" and "In the Spirit of a Dream."

**Laura G. Lee, **children's book author and illustrator. Her picture books are "Soy Sauce!" and "Cat Eyes."

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