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Oh The Places You'll Go: Travel in 2025

2025/1/2
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Alexis Madrigal
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Amy Virshup
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Billie Cohen
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Billie Cohen: 2024年,我去明尼苏达州北部卢岑镇旅行,那里风景优美,户外活动丰富,但鲜为人知。这表明,即使在国内,也能发现令人惊喜的旅行目的地。 此外,我还在肯尼亚、阿根廷和挪威等地旅行,这些地方的体验也各有千秋。 在旅行中,我发现即使是去一些比较偏远的地方,路途中的风景和体验也是旅行的一部分,这会让旅程更有意义。 最后,我发现旅行中难免会遇到一些意外情况,例如航班延误,但重要的是要保持耐心,并从积极的角度看待这些事情。 Amy Virshup: 我去佛蒙特州斯托观赏日全食,这是一次非常难忘的经历。这让我意识到人类的渺小,也让我更加关注天文现象和自然奇观。 这次经历也让我更加关注那些能够让人们放下手机,亲近自然,感受宇宙奥秘的旅行方式。 日全食的观赏也让我意识到,旅行并不仅仅是去热门景点打卡,更重要的是去体验那些能够触动心灵的时刻。 未来,我计划去东南亚旅行,泰国是其中一个备选目的地,这受到电视剧《白莲花》的影响。 Faith Adiele: 我在2024年去了8个国家,其中摩洛哥的旅行给我留下了深刻的印象。 摩洛哥是一个既热门又充满复杂性的国家,我通过与当地人交流、学习当地文化,以及参加当地活动,获得了独特的旅行体验。 这次旅行让我对穆斯林世界有了更深入的了解,也让我更加关注旅行对世界的影响。 未来,我计划去蒙古旅行,这受到朋友的推荐,我对蒙古的文化和自然风光很感兴趣。 Alexis Madrigal: 节目的讨论围绕着2024年的旅行经历以及2025年的旅行计划展开。嘉宾们分享了各自的旅行故事,并就旅行中遇到的问题和挑战进行了探讨。 节目中,嘉宾们还讨论了可持续旅游、慢旅行以及如何以经济实惠的方式享受旅行等话题。 此外,节目还邀请了听众分享他们的旅行经验和建议,并就一些具体的旅行目的地进行了推荐。 Scott: 我推荐去日本四国岛进行88座寺庙的朝圣之旅,这是一次独特的旅行体验,可以让人们在慢节奏中感受日本文化。 Arun: 我推荐去乌兹别克斯坦和吉尔吉斯斯坦旅行,这两个国家是了解丝绸之路历史和文化的理想目的地。 乌兹别克斯坦的基础设施完善,交通便利,对于第一次去中亚旅行的人来说是一个不错的选择。 未来,我计划去高加索地区(格鲁吉亚、亚美尼亚和阿塞拜疆)旅行,那里拥有丰富的历史文化和自然风光。 Amanda: 我推荐去圣克鲁兹的咆哮营地铁路旅行,这是一次穿越红杉林的难忘旅程。 这次旅行不仅可以欣赏到美丽的红杉林,还可以了解当地的历史和文化。 此外,咆哮营地铁路还保留了蒸汽火车,这更增加了旅行的趣味性。 Hobie: 我推荐去意大利利古里亚地区旅行,那里盛产塔吉亚斯卡橄榄油,是一种独特的当地特产。 利古里亚地区拥有美丽的海岸线和丰富的文化底蕴,是一个值得探索的地方。 此外,我还在节目中分享了我对火车旅行的热爱,并认为火车旅行是一种独特的旅行方式,可以让人们更好地感受旅途中的风景和人文。

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What are some emerging travel trends for 2025?

Emerging travel trends for 2025 include 'set jetting,' where travelers visit destinations featured in popular TV shows like HBO's 'The White Lotus.' Mongolia is gaining popularity for its unique culture, techno music scene, and yurt stays. Additionally, there's a growing interest in less-touristed places like Aotea, New Zealand, which is a dark sky sanctuary and off-the-grid destination. Train travel is also making a comeback due to its romantic appeal and environmental benefits.

Why is Mongolia becoming a popular travel destination?

Mongolia is gaining attention for its stylish culture, techno music scene, and mountain culture. Travelers can stay in traditional yurts, interact with locals who are eager to engage with foreigners, and explore unique landscapes. The country offers a blend of modernity and tradition, making it an appealing destination for those seeking a transformative and culturally rich experience.

What is the 'White Lotus effect' and how does it influence travel?

The 'White Lotus effect' refers to the surge in travel to destinations featured in the HBO series 'The White Lotus.' The show's first season was set in Hawaii, the second in Sicily, and the third in Thailand. Locations showcased in the series, including hotels, often see a significant increase in bookings as fans seek to experience the settings firsthand. This trend is part of a larger phenomenon called 'set jetting,' where travelers visit places highlighted in their favorite TV shows or movies.

What makes Aotea, New Zealand, a unique travel destination?

Aotea, also known as Great Barrier Island, is unique because it is entirely off the grid, with all restaurants, bakeries, and coffee shops operating sustainably. It is a dark sky sanctuary, making it ideal for stargazing, especially during the solar maximum. The island offers a mix of natural beauty and cultural experiences, with opportunities to engage with local Aotea natives who run tours and share their heritage.

How is train travel being revitalized as a mode of travel?

Train travel is being revitalized due to its romantic appeal, environmental benefits, and the ability to see landscapes up close. Luxury train experiences, such as those offered by Belmond, are gaining popularity. Additionally, some countries and tour operators are replacing short domestic flights with train trips to reduce carbon emissions. This shift is happening at both the traveler and governmental levels, reflecting a broader trend toward sustainable travel.

What are some tips for preparing for a trip to Japan?

To prepare for a trip to Japan, travelers can watch shows like PBS's 'The Wonders of Japan' to learn about different regions and cultural highlights. Reading books, both historical and fictional, set in Japan can provide deeper insights into the country's culture. Additionally, using Instagram to explore hashtags and local guides can uncover hidden gems and unique experiences. Hiring a travel agent can also help navigate the complexities of planning a trip to Japan.

What are some unique culinary experiences travelers can seek out?

Travelers can seek out unique culinary experiences by focusing on local specialties, such as Taggiasco olive oil from Liguria, Italy, or charred lamb's head in central Morocco. Taking cooking classes or joining food tours led by locals can provide deeper cultural insights and connections. These experiences often lead to memorable meals and conversations, enriching the travel experience.

Why is the Caucasus region becoming a popular travel destination?

The Caucasus region, including Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan, is gaining popularity due to its rich history, diverse landscapes, and unique cultural offerings. Georgia, in particular, is known for its wine, food, and ancient Christian monasteries. The region's complexity and relatively low tourist traffic make it an appealing destination for travelers seeking authentic and less-crowded experiences.

What are some transformative travel experiences shared by the guests?

Transformative travel experiences shared by the guests include Billie Cohen's trip to northern Minnesota, where she discovered the beauty of Lake Superior and fall foliage. Amy Virshup watched the solar eclipse in Vermont, which deepened her appreciation for celestial events. Faith Adiele's journey through Morocco, traveling slowly by train and engaging with local cultures, provided a profound and immersive experience. These trips highlight the value of slowing down and connecting deeply with a destination.

What are some local travel recommendations in California?

Local travel recommendations in California include the Roaring Camp Railroads in Santa Cruz, which offers a scenic train ride through the Redwoods. Big Sur and Sea Ranch are also popular for their natural beauty. Amanda in Walnut Creek recommends the Roaring Camp experience for its historical insights and family-friendly atmosphere, while others suggest exploring the state's diverse landscapes and hidden gems.

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Travel writers and editors share their most memorable trips from the past year, highlighting destinations like Northern Minnesota, Vermont (for the solar eclipse), and Morocco. They discuss the transformative aspects of their journeys and the impact of social media on travel trends.
  • Unexpected travel gems can be found close to home (Northern Minnesota).
  • The solar eclipse in Vermont was a transformative experience for many.
  • Morocco offers a rich cultural experience with diverse traditions and historical significance.

Shownotes Transcript

Last year, visitors flocked to the path of the solar eclipse, packed up to visit national parks and headed abroad. While climate change and overtouristing are impacting travel, post-COVID wanderlust shows no sign of abating in 2025. Maybe it will be a trip to Belgrade, Benin or the Bold Coast of Maine. We talk to travel experts about places we’ve been and where we should go in the new year. What’s on your travel bucket list?

Guests:

**Faith Adiele, **Oakland-based travel writer; author of “Meeting Faith: The Forest Journals of a Black Buddhist Nun”; founder of the “Traveling While BIPOC” writing workshop, for writers who are Black, Indigenous and people of color. Her recent work is featured in "Go Girl 2: The Black Woman's Book of Travel and Adventure".

**Amy Virshup, **travel editor, The New York Times

**Billie Cohen, **editorial director, Afar magazine