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To Fold or Fight: Law Firms Weigh Risks of Trump Resistance

2025/4/3
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Lori Carr-Mims: 我是Kecker Van Nest & Peters的管理合伙人。我们律所不会向特朗普政府的压力屈服，我们将继续代表寻求政治庇护者，即使这意味着冒着失去客户的风险。我们认为特朗普政府的行政命令是违宪的，是对法治的攻击。我们相信律师有责任捍卫宪法，即使这意味着要冒着经济风险。我们已经收到了来自全国各地律师的感谢信，他们赞赏我们敢于对抗特朗普政府的举动。我们还与其他律师事务所合作，共同对抗这些行政命令。 Jessica Silver-Greenberg: 保罗·魏斯律师事务所与特朗普政府达成协议，这在律师界引起了广泛的争议。该协议的原因不仅仅是因为他们曾代表希拉里·克林顿，还因为他们在特朗普第一任期内积极对抗其政府的政策。许多律师，特别是年轻律师，对保罗·魏斯律师事务所的这一举动感到失望，认为他们为了自身利益牺牲了原则。保罗·魏斯的妥协为其他律师事务所效仿创造了先例，这可能会对未来的法律诉讼产生深远的影响。 Rachel Cohen: 我是Skadden Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom律师事务所的前律师。我辞职的原因是该事务所与特朗普政府达成协议，这让我感到失望。我认为这是对法治的威胁，并且这种行为会为专制政府铺平道路。我呼吁律师们采取集体行动，共同对抗特朗普政府的压力，维护法治。 Raymond Brescia: 特朗普政府针对律师事务所的行政命令是违宪的，这类似于纽约州政府针对与全国步枪协会做生意的公司采取的行动，最高法院已裁定该行动违宪。这些行政命令对法律职业构成严重威胁，因为它们可能会阻止律师为其客户提供有效的法律援助，并可能损害律师事务所的声誉。律师们应该团结起来，共同对抗这种对法治的攻击。

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Willkie Farr & Gallagher, the law firm that employs former second gentleman Doug Emhoff, is among the latest to cut a deal with the Trump administration, agreeing to provide $100 million in free legal services to causes the President supports. In executive orders Trump has targeted several high profile firms he considers hostile to him, and the capitulation by some firms has constitutional law experts alarmed. We talk about the implications for democracy and the First Amendment, and we’ll hear from one San Francisco firm that’s fighting back.



Guests:

**Raymond Brescia, **professor, Albany Law School; author, "Lawyer Nation: The Past, Present, and Future of the American Legal Profession"

**Laurie Carr Mims, **managing partner, Keker Van Nest & Peters

**Jessica Silver-Greenberg, **investigative reporter, The New York Times

**Rachel Cohen, **former associate, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom

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