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Trump Allies Already Pressuring State Leaders on Immigration

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节目主持人: 本节目讨论了特朗普政府的移民政策以及加州庇护城市对该政策的回应。特朗普盟友向各州领导施压,试图阻止其移民议程,并警告说,如果加州等庇护州阻挠联邦移民执法,官员可能面临刑事起诉和民事责任。 Hamid Ali Aziz: 特朗普政府可能会再次针对庇护城市和地区,试图取消其资金,并对加州的庇护政策提起诉讼。特朗普政府将把移民执法作为主要目标,因为他们知道大多数被ICE逮捕的移民来自监狱,而许多移民居住在加州等实施庇护政策的地区。特朗普政府计划大规模驱逐出境,并为此做出了许多承诺,但其可行性还有待观察。特朗普政府的移民执法将非常积极,但其规模和速度将取决于ICE的资源和国会拨款。 Daryl Steinberg: 萨克拉门托是一个自豪的庇护城市,正在加强为受特朗普政府威胁的移民提供的法律资源。特朗普的移民政策并非关于控制边境,而是关于伤害长期居住在美国的移民。面对特朗普政府的威胁,各城市应该抵抗并回击,维护公民权利和人权。 Francisco Ugarte: 加州拨款用于加强法律辩护是一个良好的开端,但移民拥有宪法权利,可以对抗驱逐出境。旧金山公共辩护人办公室已经建立了一个团队来对抗驱逐出境,并将在未来继续这样做。大规模驱逐出境的想法与美国的法律体系相悖,因为移民拥有法律权利,可以对抗驱逐出境。庇护政策与犯罪率之间没有关联,移民执法从来都不是公共安全工具。 Ahilan Arulanantham: 加州在第一次特朗普政府时期就抵制了联邦政府的大规模驱逐努力,并赢得了诉讼。尽管政治环境有所变化,但加州州和地方政府官员认识到,对大规模驱逐出境的反对意见是压倒性的。加州的庇护法允许对犯有严重或暴力重罪的人进行驱逐,但这样做是否会降低犯罪率存在争议。加州在阻止联邦政府在加州建造移民拘留中心方面,权力有限。非营利组织和法律服务机构需要更多的法律专业知识来帮助面临驱逐出境的移民。对于那些拥有最终驱逐令但尚未离开美国的人,联邦政策应该如何处理是一个复杂的问题。

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What is the main threat outlined in the letter from Stephen Miller's America First Legal Foundation to California officials?

The letter warns that sanctuary jurisdictions, including California, are violating federal law and that officials could face criminal prosecution and civil liability for resisting federal immigration enforcement. It specifically threatens jail time for officials who block the administration's immigration agenda.

What are the potential consequences for California officials who resist federal immigration enforcement?

California officials who resist federal immigration enforcement could face criminal prosecution, civil liability, and even jail time, according to the letter from America First Legal Foundation. The letter emphasizes that sanctuary policies violate federal law.

What is the Trump administration's stance on sanctuary cities and mass deportation?

The Trump administration has pledged to aggressively enforce immigration laws, including prosecuting officials who harbor undocumented immigrants. Trump has also promised mass deportation of up to 20 million people, the construction of mass detention camps, and the deputization of National Guard troops and local police to assist in deportation efforts.

How is Sacramento preparing to respond to the Trump administration's immigration policies?

Sacramento, as a sanctuary city, has allocated city resources to provide legal support for immigrants, dreamers, and refugees threatened by the Trump administration's policies. The city established these resources during Trump's first term and plans to intensify efforts under the new mayor and city council.

What is the role of ICE in immigration enforcement, and how does it relate to sanctuary policies?

ICE primarily detains immigrants, often from jails, and enforces federal immigration laws. Sanctuary policies limit cooperation between local law enforcement and ICE, making it harder for ICE to carry out deportations. ICE's budget and resources, however, are limited, and its ability to enforce mass deportations depends on congressional funding and local cooperation.

What is the public opinion in California regarding mass deportation efforts?

A significant majority of Californians, especially in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, oppose mass deportation efforts, according to a survey by the Public Policy Institute of California. This opposition reflects the state's progressive stance on immigration and its commitment to protecting immigrant communities.

What are the legal rights of immigrants facing deportation in the U.S.?

Immigrants facing deportation have constitutional rights, including the right to bond, the right to defend against deportation, and the right to due process. They can assert claims in removal proceedings and seek release from custody. These rights are protected under U.S. law, even in sanctuary jurisdictions.

How effective were sanctuary policies in reducing deportations during the Trump administration?

Sanctuary policies, particularly in California, significantly reduced deportations during the Trump administration by limiting cooperation between local law enforcement and ICE. Deportations at the national level decreased compared to the Obama administration, largely due to these policies.

What is the economic impact of mass deportation on the U.S.?

Mass deportation would severely damage the U.S. economy, as millions of undocumented workers contribute to key industries like agriculture and construction. Deporting these workers would disrupt families, reduce labor supply, and increase costs for businesses and consumers.

What is the historical context of immigration detention in California?

California has been central to the immigration debate, with ICE detaining about 3,000 people daily in six privately-run facilities. However, as progressive jurisdictions push back against immigration detention, enforcement has shifted to states like Louisiana and Georgia. California's options to stop federal detention efforts are limited due to court rulings.

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This chapter discusses the potential consequences of the Trump administration's immigration policies, focusing on the threat of mass deportation and the reactions of California officials and sanctuary cities. Experts weigh in on the legality and feasibility of such actions.
  • Trump administration plans to aggressively enforce immigration laws.
  • Threat of mass deportation and prosecution of officials harboring undocumented immigrants.
  • California's sanctuary laws limit cooperation with ICE.
  • Concerns about the administration's resources and the possibility of internal splits on immigration issues.

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California officials could face jail time if they attempt to block the administration’s immigration agenda, according to a recent letter to state and local leaders from Trump ally Stephen Miller’s non-profit, America First Legal (AFL). At issue is California’s “Sanctuary State” law, which seeks to prevent state resources from being used to assist with federal immigration enforcement. And several local jurisdictions, including San Francisco and Los Angeles, have also passed their own sanctuary laws. In the letter, sent to 249 state and local officials across the U.S., AFL warned that sanctuary jurisdictions were violating federal law and that officials “could face criminal prosecution and civil liability.” We’ll look at how California and sanctuary cities are preparing to respond to the new federal policies, including a possible mass deportation program.

Guests:

**Hamed Aleaziz, **reporter covering the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy, The New York Times

**Ahilan Arulanantham, **faculty co-director, Center for Immigration Law & Policy, UCLA School of Law; former Legal Director ACLU of Southern California