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Trump Federal Funding Freeze Order Sows Confusion, Fear

2025/1/29
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Alexis Madrigal: 特朗普的行政命令导致联邦政府陷入混乱,资金冻结影响范围广泛,引发了人们对政府项目和服务的担忧。 Mark Joseph Stern: 特朗普最初的命令范围广泛,令人震惊,它似乎冻结了数千亿美元的资金,声称需要逐项审查支出,以确保符合总统的新优先事项。政府的回应是先发布广泛的政策,然后在遭到强烈反对后进行部分撤回,利用由此产生的混乱来达到其目的。 Marisa Lagos: 特朗普政府的举动,加上其关于出生公民权的命令,引发了广泛的混乱和对法律挑战的预期。加州总检察长认为特朗普政府冻结联邦资金的行为是公然违宪的,并认为这是对权力分立的侵犯。 Samuel R. Bagenstos: 特朗普暂停国会已批准的资金的做法是极端且具有侵略性,违反了宪法基本原则,因为立法权属于国会。特朗普政府关于总统在1974年之前拥有资金扣留权力的说法是错误的,因为国会通过的拨款法案明确规定了支出金额,总统有义务遵守。法院已发布临时禁令,阻止暂停支出,直到法官考虑是否发布更长时间的禁令。特朗普政府的行为构成宪法危机,因为他无视国会通过的法律,自行决定法律内容。 Alexa: 由于资金冻结,一家气候科技初创公司面临资金暂停,这给合作伙伴带来了混乱,并对项目的环保正义部分造成了担忧。 Paul: 他的女儿在NIH的演讲被取消,这突显了资金冻结对学术研究的负面影响。 Greg: 一个小型非营利组织的负责人讲述了资金冻结如何影响到他们的拨款申请和与农民和牧场主的工作。 Arthur: 对加州高等教育系统可能受到的影响表示担忧。

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A federal judge temporarily blocked President Trump’s order to freeze federal grants and loans on Tuesday, as Medicaid and other programs experienced interruptions causing chaos and confusion. The Trump administration’s directive could halt trillions of dollars in federal funds while agencies are directed to ensure financial assistance doesn’t conflict with administration ideology. California’s Attorney General and 22 other states have sued to stop the freeze, saying it is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of powers. We’ll talk about what could be affected by the funding order, which is halted until at least Monday, the legality of Trump’s action, and the efforts to fight it.

Guests:

Samuel R. Bagenstos, professor of law, University of Michigan Law School; former general counsel, White House Office of Management and Budget

Mark Joseph Stern, senior writer, Slate magazine

Marisa Lagos, politics correspondent, KQED, co-host of KQED's Political Breakdown