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Elon Musk lies about owning a laptop

2025/6/25
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Will Walden: 作为主持人,我报道了埃隆·马斯克法律团队在与OpenAI的诉讼中声称马斯克不使用电脑的说法,这与他自己在社交媒体上发布的照片和言论相矛盾。我认为这一说法为本已复杂的法律纠纷增添了离奇色彩。我指出,马斯克曾多次公开展示自己使用笔记本电脑,甚至提到过带有Dogecoin贴纸的电脑,这与他的法律团队的说法大相径庭。我认为,这场诉讼的核心在于马斯克对OpenAI发展方向的不满,他认为OpenAI违背了最初的非营利使命,转而追求商业利益,这促使他创立了XAI,试图构建一个更开放和安全的人工智能发展模式。我强调,这场法律战不仅仅是个人恩怨,更是对人工智能未来发展方向和所有权的深刻反思,审判结果将对初创公司的创始协议和价值观产生重要影响。 Will Walden: 我还提到OpenAI对马斯克提起了反诉,指责他进行不正当竞争,并试图破坏OpenAI的业务关系。我认为,这场法律纠纷的核心在于双方对人工智能发展方向和所有权的根本分歧。OpenAI最初是一个非营利组织,但后来发展成为一家商业公司,与微软等公司达成了独家协议。马斯克对此表示批评,并试图从头开始构建一个替代方案。双方都指责对方背叛了最初的价值观。马斯克声称OpenAI为了商业利益放弃了最初的使命,而OpenAI则指责马斯克利用公司的发展来服务于他个人的竞争利益。即将到来的审判将迫使双方提供关于公司早期协议、内部决策和商业动机的详细记录。审判预计将阐明初创公司成立协议的法律界限,以及原始意图在公司转型后的影响力。

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast. This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads that shape SpaceX, Tesla, X, the Boring Company, and Neuralink. I'm your host, Will Walden. Elon Musk's legal team told a federal court that he does not use a computer, even though Elon Musk has posted multiple photos of his laptop and discussed his computer habits on social media, including on his platform X.

Now, this contradiction appeared in a legal filing submitted on Sunday as part of Elon Musk's ongoing lawsuit against OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman. Musk's legal team made the claim to explain their data search process during discovery, saying they had already searched his phone and email and asserted that Elon Musk doesn't even use a computer.

Finally, in response to OpenAI's accusation that Musk and his company, XAI, failed to comply with court-ordered discovery. Musk's statement stands at odds with his own history of laptop use. In December of 2024, Musk posted a photo of a laptop bearing a Dogecoin sticker and wrote, "This is a pic of my laptop. A guy in Germany gave me this cool sticker, so I don't want to upgrade it and lose the sticker."

He referenced the same laptop again a month later, responding to a question about gaming, saying, still using my ancient PC laptop with the at Doge sticker made long ago by a fan. And Musk has also mentioned using both a desktop PC and a Mac in previous posts.

Employees at X told Wired that Musk mostly operates from his phone but occasionally uses a laptop. Wired also reported the photos of Musk's office in Washington, D.C.'s Eisenhower Executive Office building showed a gaming PC setup. These public and private details undermine the legal team's statement that he doesn't even use a computer.

The lawsuit stems from Musk's long-running feud with OpenAI, which he co-founded in 2015. Musk originally joined the company to ensure that artificial intelligence development stayed non-commercial and served the public good. OpenAI's transformation into a capped profit structure and its close business relationship with Microsoft fueled Musk's departure from the board in 2018 and eventually led him to sue the company earlier this year.

Musk argues that OpenAI breached its founding contract by building AI systems primarily to benefit Microsoft rather than humanity at large. He also claims that OpenAI's current profit-seeking structure contradicts the original agreement among the company's founders. Though a judge declined to block OpenAI's for-profit operations, she allowed the case to move towards a trial scheduled for this year.

As tensions escalated, OpenAI responded with its own legal action against Elon Musk. It accused him of unfair competition and interfering with business relationships, including those with investors and customers. The countersuit framed Musk's claims as an attempt to undermine OpenAI's success with ChatGPT, which launched publicly in 2022.

Musk launched XAI in 2023 to pursue his version of AI development, promising greater openness and adherence to safety. The company has since become part of a broader effort by Musk to build technology alternatives to those owned by competitors, including OpenAI, Google, and Meta. The courtroom dispute between Musk and OpenAI continues.

is a deeper disagreement about AI's direction and ownership. OpenAI started as a nonprofit backed by idealistic promises, but it's since evolved into a commercial operation that relies on exclusivity deals, including a major partnership with Microsoft. Musk's response has been to criticize this evolution and try to build an alternative from scratch. Both sides in this legal battle accuse the other of betraying foundational values. Musk claims OpenAI abandoned its original mission for commercial gain.

OpenAI accuses Musk of exploiting the company's growth to serve his personal and competitive interests. The trial, if it proceeds as scheduled, will force both sides to present detailed records about the company's early agreements, internal decisions and documents, and business motivations. And it will also revisit the founding era of OpenAI and the evolution that brought it to its current position.

Now, Elon's denial of computer use adds kind of a bizarre detail to this case that's already defined by sharp personal and legal conflicts between Elon Musk and Sam Altman and the other members of OpenAI. And the trial is expected to clarify the legal boundaries of startup founding agreements and how much power

Those original intentions carry once a company like OpenAI changes direction, goes for profit and makes billions of dollars as opposed to staying as a nonprofit that is there to just benefit humanity.

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