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Sheldon Whitehouse Accuses Musk Of Using DOGE To Undermine Social Security In Push To Privatize It

2025/5/8
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我认为社会保障体系对美国老年人的生活至关重要,需要我们坚决捍卫。它使美国老年人摆脱贫困,过上体面而公平的退休生活。我们必须保护它,确保社会保障体系的完整性不受破坏。 总统一直在谈论虚构的欺诈行为。除非你另有所图,否则你为什么要谈论系统中虚构的欺诈行为呢?而这不仅仅是他一个人。埃隆·马斯克喋喋不休地谈论社会保障体系中的欺诈行为。商务部长也对此事发表评论,称社会保障体系充斥着欺诈行为。然后总统来到另一栋楼,另一栋楼的尽头,站在众议院的讲台上,公然向美国人民撒谎,公然向美国人民撒谎,关于社会保障欺诈。他还让埃隆·马斯克称其为庞氏骗局。 这是一场错误信息和虚假信息的攻击,如果没有动机,这是不会发生的。这里的动机是降低公众对社会保障的信心。与此同时,你派遣你所谓的“小麝鼠”,你派遣你的“小麝鼠”进入社会保障体系,扰乱其运作。 这样一来,你这边就会发生言辞攻击,然后因为你破坏了社会保障体系,导致其运作失败,从而出现所谓的福利中断。福利中断。然后你也会有你的私募股权公司和你的科技兄弟在那里,这样当福利中断发生时,他们就可以介入,出手相救, 解决政府造成的这个问题。接下来你知道会发生什么吗?社会保障体系私有化,私募股权公司和科技兄弟掌控局面,因为数千名知道如何管理社会保障管理局的员工已经被迫离开。这就是令人担忧的问题,这是一个非常真实的问题。我要给布里塞尼亚诺先生一些好的评价,好的分数。 因为他表示他不会那样做。他说,在他的领导下,社会保障管理局将仍然是一个政府机构,并将仍然是一个为美国人民和受益人服务的机构。现在,问题是我发现提名声明很难令人相信,因为白宫、马斯克、商务部长以及其他任何试图实现共和党几十年来极端目标的人施加的压力,想要取消社会保障。因此,我在委员会中投了反对票。我将在那里投反对票。我非常希望我错了。但我同样非常希望鲁比奥部长会为乌克兰挺身而出,并且他作为国务卿会成为捍卫乌克兰的支柱, 对抗弗拉基米尔·普京的掠夺性、残酷的、犯罪的战争罪行。但我们看到的却是我们对乌克兰战略的“普京化”。从我看到的所有迹象来看,国务卿完全对此负有责任。所以,当有人说一套做一套时,在鲁拜克斯部长的情况下,他实际上经历过这一切,他实际上是捍卫乌克兰的热烈倡导者。 然后你进入特朗普区域,突然你所有的原则都消失了,你所有的承诺都消失了。一切都变成了,你只是变成了特朗普政治运作的工具。我已经看到这种情况太多了,所以我将投反对票。我们需要参议院发出一个明确的信息,即社会保障是不可侵犯的。 这是我们所有美国人之间的一个承诺,要保护我们的老年人,在我们达到那个年龄时保护我们自己,并且任何人都不会被允许破坏它。我要问的一件事是,确保我们进入社会保障的数据库,并确保那些“小麝鼠”在进入那里时没有造成任何永久性损害,没有引爆导弹。 稍后引爆的地雷,也没有留下后门让信息泄露给私营部门的人,对他们来说,这些信息就像黄金一样宝贵。最后我要说的是,布拉西尼亚诺先生表示他会与我一起处理福利断崖问题。 你在领取全额福利时一切安好,然后发生了一件小事,你错过了一个小目标,结果就完全崩溃了。有一种更好的处理方法。福利断崖平滑化是一个技术性问题。他承诺他会与我一起努力。我打算让他遵守这个承诺。我的朋友科恩先生,德克萨斯州的参议员,一直在耐心地等待,所以我现在将发言权交给这位先生。

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Madam President, I'm pleased to supplement the remarks of our distinguished leader with respect to Social Security. Rhode Island has, I believe, the largest participation per capita of Social Security in the country. Social Security is what brought American seniors out of poverty into a distinguished and fair retirement.

and it really matters that we defend it and that Social Security remain unbroken. Threat is pretty clear. The president keeps talking about imaginary fraud. Why would you talk about imaginary fraud in the system unless you have some motive? And it wasn't just him. Elon Musk talked relentlessly about fraud in the Social Security system. The Secretary of Commerce went a mile out of his lane

to add a shot at Social Security being riddled with fraud. And then the president went to the other building, the other end of the building there, stood at the rostrum of the House and lied to the American people, flat out lied to the American people about Social Security fraud. He let Elon Musk call it a Ponzi scheme as well.

This is a battering ram of misinformation and disinformation, and it doesn't happen without a motive. The motive here is to degrade public confidence in Social Security. At the same time, you send what I call your little muskrats, you send your muskrats into Social Security to disrupt its operations.

so that you have the rhetorical attack happening over here, and then you begin to have Social Security fail because you broke it and get what has been referred to as an interruption of benefits. An interruption of benefits. And then you also have your private equity people and your tech bros over there so that when the interruption of benefits happens, they can come in, swoop to the rescue,

of the problem that the administration caused. And next thing you know, what have you got? Privatized Social Security with private equity guys and tech bros running the show because thousands of the employees who know how to run the Social Security Administration have been forced out. That's the concern, and it's a very real concern. I want to give Mr. Brisegnano good remarks, good marks.

for saying that he's not going there. He said that he will not privatize the agency, will not. He said that under his leadership, the Social Security Administration will remain a government agency and remain an agency that is run for the benefit of the American people and benefit recipients. Now, the problem is I find nominations statements hard to believe up against the power

of that pressure from the White House and from Musk and from the Secretary of Commerce and from whoever else is trying to accomplish the Republican extremist goal for decades of getting rid of Social Security. So I was a no vote in committee. I'm going to be a no vote out here. I hope very much that I'm wrong. But I also hope very much that Secretary Rubio would stand up for Ukraine and that he'd be an anchor as Secretary of State to defend Ukraine

against the predatory, brutal, criminal war crimes of Vladimir Putin. But what we've seen instead has been the Putinization of our strategy to Ukraine. And the Secretary of State has been entirely complicit in it from all the signs that I see. So when you have somebody who says one thing, and in the case of Secretary Roubaix, who actually lived it, he was actually an ardent advocate for defending Ukraine.

And then you get into Trump zone and suddenly all your principles disappear, all your commitments disappear. Everything just becomes, you just become a tool of the Trump political operation. I've seen that too often, so I'm going to vote no. We need as a Senate to send a clear message that Social Security is inviolable.

That it is a promise amongst us all as Americans to protect our seniors, to protect ourselves when we get to that age, and that no one will be allowed to break it. And one of the things I'm going to ask is to make sure that we go into Social Security's databases and make sure that those muskrats, when they went in there, didn't do any permanent damage, didn't set off missiles.

mines to go off later and didn't leave back doors for the information to be exfiltrated out to private sector folks for whom it's as good as gold. I'll say one last thing, and that is that Mr. Brasignano said he would work with me on the benefit cliffs.

where you're fine at full benefits and then one little thing happens, you miss one little mark, and it's a complete crash. There's a better way to deal with it. Benefit cliff smoothing is a technical thing. He promised he would work with me. I intend to hold him to that promise. And my friend Mr. Cornyn, the senator from Texas, has been patiently waiting, so I'll yield the floor now to him. This episode is brought to you by State Farm.

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