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The latest Tesla investor call was weird

2025/4/27
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播音员: 特斯拉第一季度财报显示利润率仅为2%,交付量下降5万辆,创下数年来最差业绩。然而,股价却上涨了8%。这与传统公司在类似情况下股价下跌的现象形成鲜明对比。特斯拉将业绩下滑归咎于整体经济环境不确定性,认为人们对大宗商品购买犹豫。但这忽略了一个关键事实:电动汽车市场整体仍在增长,只是特斯拉的市场份额在下降,竞争对手的业绩却在上升。特斯拉库存积压,这表明其品牌吸引力可能正在下降。 特斯拉的财报电话会议上,马斯克更多地关注未来规划,例如机器人出租车、完全自动驾驶汽车和人形机器人等项目。这些项目已讨论多年,但尚未实现。奥斯汀自动驾驶汽车试点项目规模很小,仅限于10到20辆车,且使用地理围栏区域和远程人工操作员,这与马斯克之前批评的系统类似。他预测到2026年下半年将有数百万辆机器人出租车投入使用,以及在十年内生产数百万个机器人,使特斯拉成为全球最有价值的企业。然而,目前特斯拉的机器人只能执行基本的预编程任务,缺乏竞争优势。 特斯拉的股价走势与其日常业务脱节,更多地依赖于马斯克对未来的承诺。这不仅影响了股东,也影响了那些购买了完全自动驾驶软件但尚未获得该技术的客户,以及那些在项目之间频繁调动的员工。特斯拉的财报电话会议不再关注产品里程碑和财务指标,而是更多地描绘未来的蓝图。马斯克将技术声明与营销语言混合,难以区分实际进展和未来展望。特斯拉的股价反映的是投资者对马斯克未来承诺的信心,而非公司当前业绩。 针对特斯拉工厂和设施周围日益增长的抗议活动,马斯克声称抗议者都是被组织和付费的,但没有提供任何证据。这些抗议活动涉及工会、劳工权利委员会、环保倡导者和一些特斯拉员工,投诉内容涉及不安全的工作条件和反工会行为。马斯克的做法是转移批评焦点,并对提出担忧的人的动机表示怀疑。 Elon Musk: 我认为所有抗议特斯拉的人都是被有组织地付费的,他们当然不会承认自己是因为收受欺诈性资金或浪费的巨款而抗议。 关于特斯拉的自动驾驶技术,我们将在奥斯汀启动一个小规模的试点项目,并计划在2026年下半年在道路上部署数百万辆机器人出租车。我们还致力于人形机器人的研发,相信这将使特斯拉成为全球最有价值的企业。 至于公司当前的业绩,我们认为这是由于整体经济环境不确定性造成的,人们对大宗商品购买犹豫。我们对未来充满信心,我们的创新技术和产品将继续引领市场。

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you'll still get the latest insights on Elon Musk, plus so much more. So stay tuned for our official relaunch coming soon. After Tesla's Q1 2025 earnings report, one thing stood out. The numbers were bad, but the stock went up.

Tesla posted its worst margins in years with only 2% profitability and deliveries fell by 50,000 vehicles compared to the previous quarter. Now, most companies would have faced a sell-off after results like that, but instead Tesla's stock surged by as much as 8%.

And the earnings call offered few actual answers. Tesla's leadership blamed broader economic uncertainty for falling demand, saying people are hesitant to make big purchases right now. And that explanation ignores a key fact. EV sales are growing, just not for Tesla. Competitors are posting gains while Tesla's inventory piles up. The real story seems harder to face. Tesla's brand might be losing its pull.

Elon Musk's comments during the call leaned heavily on future promises. He spoke about robo-taxis, full self-driving cars, and humanoid robots.

Now, these ideas have been discussed at Tesla for years without becoming a reality. Yet once again, the future took center stage. Musk said Tesla would launch a small pilot program for self-driving vehicles in Austin by June, starting with just 10 to 20 cars. He also predicted millions of robo taxis on the road by the second half of 2026. Now, the Austin pilot will use geofenced areas and remote human operators, this approach

mirror services like Waymo, even though Musk previously criticized those systems as unscalable. Now Tesla's full self-driving software for consumers, which many customers already paid for, remains completely unfinished. Updates have slowed because Tesla's engineers are focused on making the Austin service work. Humanoid robots also returned to the spotlight. Musk claimed

Tesla will build millions of robots by the end of the decade, leading the company to become the world's most valuable business. But right now, Tesla's robots can only perform basic, scripted tasks under human control. There's no proof yet that Tesla has a competitive advantage in robotics compared to other companies working in the same space.

So they're no different than any other general purpose robot on the market. The gap between Tesla's current performance and its future vision continues to grow. Financial results show tighter margins, slower sales and rising inventory. Yet the market keeps responding to Musk's storytelling. The stock price has drifted away from the company's day-to-day business and attached itself to Musk's longer term promises.

Now, this pattern affects more than shareholders, though. Customers who invested thousands of dollars into Tesla's full self-driving package are still waiting for the tech they were promised years ago. They paid up front for something that they don't have and they don't know when they're going to get. And employees inside Tesla are being shifted between projects that change direction based on external pressure rather than internal readiness.

Now Tesla's earning calls used to focus on product milestones and financial metrics. Now they're more about painting a picture of what the future could look like.

Musk blends technical claims with marketing language, making it harder to separate actual progress from hopeful projections. And the strength of Tesla's stock no longer reflects how the business is performing today. It reflects how much belief there is in Musk's ability to deliver tomorrow. That belief has carried the company through tough periods before, but it also introduces new risks. Faith can drive a stock higher, but eventually, results have to catch up.

how Tesla stock rose because investors are still choosing to believe in the future that Musk describes, even when the present shows warning signs. And when Elon was asked about protests and public criticism of Tesla, he opened the call by stating that those demonstrating against the company were all, everyone was organized and paid. The hundred thousand people were all paid and organized together.

He went on to say, they're obviously not going to say, admit that the reason that they're protesting is because they're receiving fraudulent money or that they are the recipients of wasteful largesse. Now,

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There was no evidence provided to support Elon's claim, though. He never said anything about where he got this information, this data from. And as an engineer, you would expect him to present his data. But it's also not the first time that Musk has said,

the kind of thing without proof. It's a tactic to shift attention away from a substance of criticism and instead cast doubt on the motives of the people raising concerns. And protests have been growing around Tesla factories and facilities, especially in Europe.

They involve unions, labor rights boards, environmental advocates, and even some Tesla employees. Complaints range from unsafe working conditions to anti-union practices. And instead of addressing any of these directly, Musk chose to suggest these people were financially motivated actors, essentially dismissing all criticism as bad faith. Now, as the earnings call continued, Musk moved away from the realities of Tesla's current operations and the protests,

We spent more time discussing projects, of course, that haven't shipped yet. AI, robotaxis and humanoid robots were all in focus in this. For many investors, this shift in tone is very familiar. When margins are down or delivery numbers miss the mark, Tesla's future gets pushed to the front of the story.

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