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Trump says he doesn’t need Musk.

2025/4/12
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Donald Trump: 我不需要马斯克来做什么,只是碰巧喜欢他这个人。但是我要告诉你,这家伙干得非常出色。他为政府节省了大量的资金,这其中一部分简直荒谬,比如有些人领取失业救济金,而他们甚至还没出生!这些事情简直令人难以置信。我认为,只要你愿意去寻找,你总能找到政府资金的浪费之处。就像军方所说的那样,这是一个‘目标丰富的环境’。我和内阁成员们紧密合作,取得了这些成果,这将使美国人民获得更好的服务,我们也会更明智、更公平、更有效地使用纳税人的钱。马斯克的人才很棒,我希望他们能长期留下来。他们非常聪明、敏锐,发现了许多意想不到的问题。我们正在与霍华德合作,争取在下周左右让特朗普老式购物车投入使用,这将非常令人兴奋。 我买了他的车,不是因为便宜,而是因为我想支持他。我付了全款,价格不菲。我把车给办公室的人开,玛戈和娜塔莉都在开,那车非常漂亮。这只是我表达支持的一种方式,很多人也都这么做。因为他做得很好,但他没有得到应有的待遇。 Will Walden: 特朗普对马斯克的态度很微妙。他虽然称赞了马斯克的贡献,特别是帮助政府挽回巨额损失,但他同时又表示自己并不需要马斯克。这暗示了特朗普对马斯克的认可更多的是基于马斯克的实际成就,而非建立在长期的个人关系或战略合作之上。特朗普的这种态度,与其说是对马斯克的轻视,不如说是对马斯克成就的一种务实评价。他更看重的是结果,而不是个人关系。这从他购买马斯克的汽车,并将其提供给办公室员工使用这一举动中也可以看出,这更像是一种对马斯克成就的认可和支持,而不是建立在深厚个人情谊基础上的行为。

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This chapter covers Elon Musk's report to Trump's cabinet about Doge's performance, fraud uncovered, and money recovered for the government. It sets the stage for Trump's subsequent comments about Musk.
  • Doge performance report presented to Trump's cabinet
  • Fraud uncovered and money recovered for the government
  • Sets the context for Trump's later comments on Elon Musk

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Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the show. This is Stage Zero. My name is Will Walden. I'm your host. And in today's episode, we're going to be showing you a clip of Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Now, Elon, in this clip, explains how Doge is doing and what they've done to uncover some secrets and some fraud and how much money they've recovered for the government. And then after that, it's Donald Trump explaining to his cabinet that

How he views Elon Musk. Now, the second or the first part of this shows that Donald Trump doesn't. I think he likes him in a way like he likes him as a person. But he says something that you'll find a little bit. I wouldn't say shocking, but it's something that we didn't expect over here at Stage Zero. And that is that he says that he doesn't really need Elon.

And you'll listen to the clip and then let me know in the comments if you have comments on your podcast platform. If you don't have comments on your podcast platform, you can go to our YouTube channel Stage Zero News. And we're going to be discussing this over there in a future video as well. So go over there, subscribe to that.

And also, when you have a second, I just need one second of your time, and I'm going to give you 10 years of my time. I just need a second for you to hit the subscribe or follow button on your podcast platform. I'm going to give you 10 more years of this show uninterrupted, not behind a paywall,

for free for 10 more years. That's my promise to you. And I'm going to make every single episode better and better every single time. And most of these episodes are going to be five minutes or 10 minutes, somewhere in that range. So you can get all the news as fast as you can and get on with your day. So please give me a second of your time. I'll give you 10 years of mine. All right. Here's Elon talking to Trump's cabinet about

And then Trump talking about Elon. Notice what Trump says about Elon.

something that should have happened decades ago. And you know that. You've known that for a long time. That's why you have us all working on this. You came into an emergency situation where President Biden left us with a $1.2 trillion trade deficit. It's the largest of any country in human history. The largest. So you declared an emergency. You took action. You said the largest in history, right? In history. In the planet. It's never been larger. It's never been anything like what he left us with.

He left us a mess. His whole administration was a mess.

So go ahead. So you declared an emergency. You imposed a trade action. So now you have a tariff on the world. It promotes U.S. manufacturing. It protects U.S. workers. And you've also given room for negotiation during this time so we can open export markets for our farmers and other producers and American workers. And this is why the unions vote for you. This is why the workers vote for you. This is why the families want you to be the president, because you're standing up for American workers and American communities. We've had countries come in

over the past couple of weeks that represent more than half of global domestic GDP. More than half. That's who's coming in to talk to you and to your advisors about how to have reciprocal trade, how to have fair trade. What have happened without you? Thank you.

Well, thanks to your fantastic leadership, this amazing cabinet, and the very talented Doge team, I'm excited to announce that we anticipate savings in FY26 from reduction of waste and fraud by $150 billion.

And some of it is just absurd. Like people getting unemployment insurance who haven't been born yet. I mean, I think anyone can appreciate whether, I mean, come on. That's just crazy. So, you know, some of these things, if you ask me, well, how are you going to find ways to afford in the government? I'm like, well, actually just go in any direction. That's how you find it. It's just, it's very common. It's as military would say, target rich environment.

So I think we're doing a lot of good in excellent collaboration with the cabinet to achieve these savings. And it will actually result in better services for the American people and that we're going to be spending their tax dollars in a way that is sensible and fair and good.

And your people are fantastic. In fact, hopefully they'll stay around for the long haul. We'd like to keep as many as we can. They're great. Smart, sharp, right? Finding features that nobody would have thought of. Very computer savvy. We're working with Howard to get the Trump old cart operational, hopefully in the next week or so. That would be very exciting. Really exciting. It's a pleasure.

The Labor Department has confirmed that $400 million went to fake people for unemployment benefits. I just wanted your initial reaction to that. I think it's terrible. I just heard it from Laurie, and I appreciate it. And you heard it from Elon's people, right? That's right. Elon's done a fantastic job. Look, he's sitting here. Mm-hmm.

And I don't care. I don't need Elon for anything other than I happen to like him. But I'm telling you, this guy, this guy did a fantastic job. I don't need his car. I actually bought one because they said, oh, did you get a bargain? No. I said, give me the top price. I paid a lot of money for that car. But honestly, he makes he makes a great car. You know what I do with it? I let the people in the office know.

drive around in it. Margo and Natalie, they're all driving around in the most beautiful car. It's gorgeous. But I did that as a sign of just a show of support. Numerous people have done that. Just a show of support. Because, you know, he's done a fantastic job, but he hasn't been treated properly. He hasn't been treated. Yeah. Mr. President, can you

Did you catch that? What Trump said about Elon? And it's telling the kind of person that Trump thinks Elon is now. And I'm not taking a side here. I am more in favor of doing the right thing and being nice to people than I am about anything else. And something is telling about the way that Donald Trump just kind of blows off Elon in this clip. And I would say that about anybody.

I'm not for or against anything. I just know what I hear. Right. And if you didn't hear that, go back, rewind a little bit, check it out. Notice how he kind of just like brushed Elon off as one of those people that like, I don't really need the guy. He just came in here and did this thing. And that's cool. You know, like that's kind of how we, how we worded it. But yeah, I mean, let me know what you think of the comments. Let me know how you feel about this because I,

I'm here to have a conversation with you and we are also a community here. And if you want to join our community for further discussion, we have a discord. I'm going to leave it in the description down below. So thank you so much for listening today. I appreciate your time and appreciate you spending it here with me on Stage Zero, the Elon Musk podcast. Take care of yourselves and each other, and I will see you in the next one.