Deep Dive
Why did Susan start doing stand-up comedy?
Susan started stand-up comedy after graduating from her master's program, where her research focused on feminism. She came across a recruitment notice for a Chinese female stand-up comedy show and decided to give it a try, encouraged by her friends.
What was Susan's experience with bullying in middle school?
Susan was bullied in middle school by her male classmates, who called her and another girl 'ugly tyrants.' They threw bottles at her, pushed her, and ostracized her. This experience left her with significant trauma, which she later processed through stand-up comedy.
How did Susan's understanding of feminism evolve?
Susan's understanding of feminism deepened through her studies and personal experiences. She learned to channel her anger and frustration into activism and comedy, realizing that feminism often starts with anger and the need to express unspoken emotions.
What role did therapy play in Susan's life?
Susan found therapy to be a crucial tool for processing her emotions and understanding the roots of her psychological struggles. It helped her connect her childhood traumas with her current emotional challenges, providing a sense of relief and clarity.
What challenges did Susan face when pursuing her master's degree?
Susan faced significant resistance from her parents when she decided to pursue a master's degree abroad. They felt threatened by her growing independence and tried to control her through arranged marriages and criticism. Despite their opposition, Susan persisted and eventually gained their support after proving her academic success.
How did Susan's stand-up comedy help her heal from past traumas?
Stand-up comedy provided Susan with a platform to share her experiences and turn her pain into humor. By performing, she was able to process her traumas, connect with others who had similar experiences, and find a sense of collective healing and empowerment.
What was Susan's experience with violence and her reflections on it?
Susan reflected on how violence, both physical and emotional, had been a part of her life. She questioned whether she would perpetuate the cycle of violence, especially after an incident where she hit her cat. Through feminist discussions, she explored the idea of using violence as a means to achieve non-violent ends.
Why did Susan stop doing stand-up comedy after returning to China?
Susan stopped performing stand-up comedy in China because she felt the environment was not safe or supportive enough for her high-energy performances. She prioritized protecting her mental health and energy over continuing to perform in an unsupportive setting.
What is the significance of Hannah Gadsby's Nanette in Susan's life?
Hannah Gadsby's Nanette had a profound impact on Susan, as it challenged the toxic culture of self-deprecation in comedy. Gadsby's performance inspired Susan to embrace her identity and use her voice to empower others, rather than conforming to societal expectations of humor.
What advice does Susan have for women who want to express themselves?
Susan encourages women to stay at the table and continue expressing themselves, whether through stand-up comedy, writing, or other forms of communication. She believes that women's voices are still underrepresented and that every woman's story is worth telling.
- 初中遭受言语霸凌
- 霸凌经历带来的长期创伤
- 疗愈过程
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一萌作为脱口秀爱好者，一直都很关注女脱口秀演员的故事。偶然的机会认识了Susan，听她的声音就知道是个爱笑、爱表达的超高能量女孩。看了她的社交媒体，果然如此，在台上的她神采飞扬，她的表达也生猛而畅快。但看着充满自信的她，在初中也经历过来自男同学的言语霸凌，Susan后来在段子里说起这段往事，爆梗频出，显得云淡风轻，她跟我们说“你要先有痛和恨，才能去说脱口秀。”回国之后，Susan因为种种原因放弃了继续说脱口秀，很多人都会觉得可惜，但就像Susan选的片尾曲给人的感觉一样，一直在路上的女侠不会丢掉手中的麦克风。
| 本期嘉宾 |
Susan：善于制造快乐的设计巫师，也是与你同路的觉醒姐妹
| 内容导览 |
00:02:40 Susan初中时候被霸凌的经历
00:05:17 一萌分享心理咨询的经历
00:10:02 为什么开始说脱口秀
00:13:46 学习女性主义之后的变化
00:21:31 女性主义的起点是愤怒
00:27:00 心理健康是说脱口秀的关键
00:30:33 纽约时期和女孩子们的情谊
00:35:53 思考爱与暴力
00:42:14 暴力的过程如何达到一个非暴力的结果？
00:45:06 Susan在脱口秀里讲母女关系
00:54:26 为什么回国不说脱口秀了？
00:58:05 推荐汉纳·盖茨比告别秀
| 本期提及书影音|
汉纳·盖茨比告别秀：娜娜 Hannah Gadsby: Nanette
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片头曲：李星宇作品，感谢支持
片尾曲：春之祭-娃娃
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