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China, Africa, and the Post-American World

2025/3/18
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Eric Olander
专注于分析中国在全球南方的技术创新和影响的媒体人物和分析师。
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Gyude Moore
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Kobus van Staden
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Eric Olander: 我认为,美国机构的脆弱性超出了我们的预期,这迫使我们重新思考国际秩序。我们习以为常的许多事情都需要重新思考。 美国正在拆除其维持霸权地位的机构和监管体系,这包括许多美国在过去75年里用来维持其在民主制度顶端的主导地位的机构。 美国国务卿马可·卢比奥认为,所谓的“自由国际秩序”不再服务于美国利益,特朗普政府正在贯彻这一承诺。 Kobus van Staden: 我对美国机构被政治忠诚者渗透并不感到意外,因为南非在祖马时代也经历过类似的情况。然而,机构整体被拆除的程度却超出了我的预期。 拉苏尔被驱逐事件反映了美非关系的恶化,这与其说是拉苏尔的个人失误,不如说是美国对南非的姿态性回应。 加沙危机使得南非别无选择,只能按照自身原则行事,这使其与美国的冲突不可避免。尽管南非在对俄罗斯的回应上存在不一致,但这并不意味着南非没有做出选择。 在后美国时代,非洲需要将自身利益放在首位,并认识到西方在世界中的地位正在发生变化。非洲应该多元化其伙伴关系,并寻找与自身处境相似的全球南方国家合作。 Gyude Moore: 全球邻居是一个新的智库,旨在架起欧洲、亚洲及其他地区之间的桥梁。 拉苏尔被驱逐是美国政府新模式的一部分,该模式不容许异见,将美国利益置于一切之上。 美国从国际体系中撤出,使得中国成为非洲唯一的主要参与者,这可能导致非洲对中国的过度依赖。非洲需要多元化的伙伴关系,避免过度依赖任何单一行为者。 稳定的国际体系需要多个参与者,而美国的退出削弱了这一体系的稳定性。 美国撤出对非洲医疗卫生系统造成负面影响,可能导致生命损失。 中国并非解决美国撤出后问题的方案,非洲国家需要提升自身价值链地位。非洲大陆内部贸易对于非洲发展至关重要。 非洲国家应学习中国的发展模式,与中国企业合作,发展本地供应链。非洲大陆经济一体化需要政治意愿,而目前缺乏这种意愿。 右翼政治力量的崛起改变了世界格局,非洲领导人需要适应这一变化。非洲需要将自身利益放在首位,并认识到西方在世界中的地位正在发生变化。非洲应该多元化其伙伴关系,并寻找与自身处境相似的全球南方国家合作。

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The podcast starts by discussing the rapid changes in the US global order and its impact on international relations, particularly concerning Africa. The expulsion of South Africa's ambassador to the US is analyzed, highlighting the changing dynamics and the challenges for African nations in navigating the new landscape.
  • Rapid changes in the US global order
  • Expulsion of South African ambassador
  • Challenges for African nations

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During his Senate confirmation, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio denounced the so-called "liberal international order" that he said was obsolete and no longer working for the United States. Since he and his boss, President Donald Trump, took office eight weeks ago, they have thoroughly upended the post-WWII global order that the U.S. itself established and led for the past 75 years.

The changes in Washington are happening so fast that it's impossible to keep up. Every day, institutions many assumed were invincible have either been closed or censured. Now, the challenges facing policymakers around the world is how to adapt to this emerging international system that is no longer anchored in Washington, D.C.

Gyude Moore, an inaugural visiting fellow at Global Neighbours and Liberia's former minister of public works, joins Eric & Cobus to discuss what he thinks African countries should do to thrive in a new post-American international order.

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