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I mean, India seems to be benefiting from China being hit with all these tariffs from the US. I mean, iPhones. Yeah, not just iPhones, but I've read some reports that... No, no, iPhones had happened earlier. Yeah. So, no. Yeah, but I've read some reports where, you know, manufacturing is trying to get out of China, right? So, they're looking at India...
Even some Chinese companies are trying to get Indian manufacturing because they can't give their customers in the U.S. the same products anymore at the markup. But my question is, how has China been reacting to, what is the relationship now between China and India in the wake of the tariffs?
It is not just with the terrorists. I would say terrorists, whatever the India-China relationship is about, this is perhaps one fallout of it. India-China relationship is extremely troubled, difficult, and frankly, at times,
It's a question of maybe not now, but someday or the other there is going to be. Will there be a kinetic conflict? Is there a 24/7 political warfare that China has declared on India or not? Yes. But you see, there's a strange kind of duality that is working in India-China relations right now. Now, when I'm talking about duality, you see, when I say that China has taken a hit because of the tariff war,
If China is not able to send its products to USA, where does it go? The products will go to India because India is the biggest market right now in terms of number of people. But at the same time, which will, which the problem is, if India, China is also going to send all these products, it becomes a case of dumping. India just put tariffs on Chinese steel, right? Yeah. So the whole point is that, so when China,
So because they are losing the US market, right now what they are doing
At one level, why I'm talking about this duality, at one level, if you look at social media narrative, if you look at the kind of stuff that they are getting printed in or published in newspapers or in magazines or particularly social media, this narrative is being pushed that India and China, we had this thing about Hindi-Chini bhai bhai, meaning India-China brothers. So that was there in the 1960s. They're trying to revive that sentiment, say,
saying that, you know, we are like brothers. The social media is filled with Chinese embassies putting out outreach programs to Indians and Indian students. Come learn from us. We will take you to China. We are going to increase the number of visas that we give to you. And then what happens if Indians and Chinese get married? They will have the best of life. That
of saccharine sweet. It's a lovely thing that India and China together will be. And there was, I think, some talk about the dragon and the elephant are going to be hand in hand from now on. Neither have hands. So that's how we know it's a lie. Yeah. But at the same time, why am I talking about the duality? What is happening? In reality, along the line of actual control, China...
You see, we remember we had that Galwan clash sometime in 2020. Five years later, okay, now we have had, I mean, we kind of, there were talks and I think multiple rounds of talks between the two militaries and then the two governments, minister levels and all that, multiple. So after that, there has been
Some, I would say, disengagement. That's a work in progress. Meaning along those troubled areas, the two militaries have, they were standing eyeball to eyeball for years.
Now they have slightly disengaged, meaning in terms of they have got kind of tried to restore each other's patrolling rights. You know, because that is not defined. That is the whole problem with that border is that it's not defined. China claims our territory to a large extent. So anyway, and we say no. So that was how the clash happened.
On the other side of the line of actual control, what is going on? China is going on absolutely full throttle, building its dual-use military and military infrastructure. Any day they want, they can start a conflict. If you look at Arunachal, they even have dual-use villages. Where there are villages, they are coming and setting, but they can all be military purposes.
So the thing is, there is disengagement, but there is no de-escalation. Right. So China's building these villages that are really like military bases in like the far west of Tibet, basically. Yeah. Well, and also Bhutan.
But on the other side of the border, India is also building up its military capacity. There's a huge tunnel that you can use to transport goods and supplies to keep the troops. Yeah, after the tunnel. Right. What else is India doing to prepare for this?
I think we have to because you see this is what one of our biggest mistakes was that the earlier governments, I would say before 2014, they were keeping those areas underdeveloped and undeveloped thinking that the Chinese once they come in their tanks will not move. So but that was a very wrong strategy.
Ever since Mr. Modi's government has come, I mean, he has taken immense initiative to build up the border infrastructure in a very big way. So yes, we are building it up in a very big way. The roads are coming up. There are bridges that have come up, particularly in the northeast. But also we are putting troops over there because you see one thing I was just going to mention, when you're talking about this duality, that Tibet, that sector, Chandigarh,
China has augmented its troops by 30%. So which part of it is friendly towards India? Here at one level, you are talking about we are friends with India, the dragon and the elephant should do a tango. And there you are sending your troops and increasing that we can only attack India any day. It's like hanging like a sword. So we have to prepare for that.
We have to, and that is the reason why, that is why our sole focus, frankly, on the military thing is on China. You see, there's another way of looking at it. The minute you're talking about India-Pakistan problems, you see the number of troops that we have deployed along the line of actual control. You see, some of that you have to divert towards LOC. So who again benefits from that? China.
So as I said, when it comes to circumstantial, when it comes to when people start thinking who is benefiting from all this? I mean, hypothetically, I'm talking about China. So no, China is no friend of India's. China is because of China. There is a you. We have to spend a lot of, you know, our resources. We have to keep our soldiers stationed there and we have to. But at the same time, yes.
You have to give credit to our soldiers for the way, I mean, they once, you know, I think 2020 or something like that, they went and occupied, they went up a particular peak. So the Chinese were coming down there every day and they were kind of propaganda. They were using mics and all. They could not dislodge our soldiers.
You see, this is something that you have to give it to our Indian soldiers. And well, I'm not saying it because I'm an Indian, but you see, China is a conscripted army.
And China goes for this one-child policy. So all their soldiers and all, most of them, they are kind of coming from decent families, coming from very comfortable background. And because they are rich, they're pretty okay rich. So as a result of it, they have had a very economically prosperous upbringing. I mean, Himalayas, they will come and live in fancy tents. Our
soldiers are not like that. They come from the villages. They are hardy people. They have fought wars. You know, insurgency we have faced. China hasn't. Look at China's history. Where has China... I mean, China is all this huge military power. Is China a tested military power? Not since the 70s. Exactly. Our soldiers are fighting insurgencies here, there, so many places. Americans have fought so many wars. Has anyone tested China?
So how do we know with China how much of it is bluff and how much of it is not? I think that's a really interesting point to bring up and really why they do this sort of stick and carrot routine, like how they're trying to be friendly with India, but also threatening to invade. It's...
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