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The State of China, with Adam Tooze, Qing Wang, and Zichen Wang — Moderated by Finbarr Bermingham of SCMP

2025/1/30
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Adam Tooze
一位多才多艺的经济学家和历史教授，通过广受欢迎的播客和专栏深入解析全球经济和政治问题。
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Zichen Wang: 我认为中国政策界对美国大选结果没有形成统一的共识。我不认为中国更偏好特朗普,因为稳定和互利的中美关系对中国更有利。虽然特朗普的务实作风可能带来一些机遇,例如对中国电动汽车投资的欢迎,但他的不可预测性也令人担忧。中国希望与美国建立互利、稳定和建设性的关系,并避免在台湾问题上出现误判。 Jing Wang: 与之前大选相比,中国民众对本次美国大选表现出相对冷漠。这源于对之前希望拜登政府会采取不同对华政策的失望,以及对中美关系的悲观预期。无论谁当选,对中国而言都没有理想的局面。此外,美国大选结果也反映出全球性别政治的危机,这令许多中国女性听众感到失望。 Adam Tooze: 我认为德国政府的垮台并非偶然,而是经过精心策划的,特朗普当选为这一事件提供了契机。欧洲目前面临着来自特朗普和中国的双重压力,缺乏有力的领导人物。欧洲需要一个稳定的柏林政府,尽快组建由基民盟、社民党和绿党组成的联合政府。此外,Jing Wang关于美国和中国性别危机的分析非常到位,这种现象在一定程度上也存在于欧洲。

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Discussion on the Chinese perspective on the US election, including the perceived indifference among the Chinese public, the disappointment in the perceived continuity of US policy towards China, and concerns about the implications for gender politics.
  • Chinese public showed indifference towards the US election compared to previous ones.
  • Disappointment with the perceived continuity of US policy towards China.
  • Concerns about the implications of the election results for gender politics globally.

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Happy Chinese New Year! This week, while I'm decompressing from 10 days in the Alps, my friends at the Asia Society of Switzerland have graciously offered to let me share a podcast recorded just after the U.S. presidential election in November at their annual State of Asia event. "The State of China" features three terrific guests: Wang Qing (王卿), the host of the popular Chinese podcast "The Weirdo" (不合时宜), Zichen Wang of the Center for China and Globalization, and Adam Tooze, one of the truly great public intellectuals of our time. It's all skillfully moderated by the South China Morning Post's Europe editor, Finbarr Bermingham, and it covers a lot of ground.

I'll be back next week in conversation with my dear friend Jeremy Goldkorn, and we'll be asking (and answering) the big question — Are we in the middle of a narrative shift on China?

May the Year of the Snake be prosperous and full of happiness and success for all you Sinica listeners!

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