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What This Former USAID Head Had to Say About Elon Musk and DOGE

2025/4/18
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Rajiv Shah: 我在洛克菲勒基金会的工作重点是解决全球贫困问题,特别是能源贫困。我们通过股权投资、政策参与和结果衡量等方式,为生活在贫困中的人们提供可再生能源。我们还致力于重建公众对科学的信任,推广安全有效的疫苗接种,因为这是拯救生命最有效的方式。此外,我曾领导美国国际开发署(USAID),我知道该机构在塑造外交政策和帮助美国在海外发挥了重要作用。尽管其预算相对较小,但它在应对紧急情况和解决全球健康问题方面取得了显著成就。取消USAID的援助将导致严重的人道主义后果,包括大量死亡。虽然USAID可以改进,但突然取消其项目将造成严重的后果。我们应该专注于提高效率和问责制,而不是完全取消该机构。我们应该与任何愿意合作的伙伴合作,以实现我们的目标。慈善机构无法填补USAID消失后留下的空白,需要公共和私人部门的共同努力。如果埃隆·马斯克想帮助人类,他应该专注于利用其技术专长解决能源贫困问题,这将比其他任何事情都更有利于人类。 Christopher Mims: 作为主持人,我引导了与Rajiv Shah的对话,并提出了关于洛克菲勒基金会、USAID以及埃隆·马斯克和DOGE相关的问题。 Tim Higgins: 作为主持人,我与Christopher Mims一起引导了与Rajiv Shah的对话,并提出了关于洛克菲勒基金会、USAID以及埃隆·马斯克和DOGE相关的问题。

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Raj Shah discusses the Rockefeller Foundation's large-scale grant to address energy poverty, explaining their approach to impact investing and risk capital in finding innovative solutions for vulnerable populations. He also touches on the Foundation's historical role in public health.
  • Half a billion dollar grant to reach a billion people with renewable energy
  • Focus on equity investments in small companies and policy engagement
  • Risk capital for society to find innovative solutions for the vulnerable
  • Foundation's historical role in public health, from fighting the 1918 influenza pandemic to developing vaccines

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Rajiv Shah), president of the Rockefeller Foundation) and former head of USAID), has spent his career on the frontlines of the fight against global poverty. That gives him unique insight) into the rapidly changing world of foreign aid and philanthropy). How are NGOs attempting to fill the funding gaps left) as the Trump administration turns inward? Shah speaks to WSJ’s Christopher Mims) and Tim Higgins) on the latest episode of the Bold Names podcast.

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