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I have just started a recording and I'm good to go. All right, let's go. Oh, Jake's wasting no time, man. Holy crow. Crow is definitely what I was going to say there. Hey, everybody. I'm Kyle Rizzo. Welcome back to Make Me Smart, where we make today make sense. We are doing it.
Buy nationally today. I'm in the States. Kimberly is in Canada. Ms. Adams, what you got?
Right, I landed in Toronto early this morning because it is election day for Canadians. And so I'm hanging out at a polling place in Blue Mountain, Ontario. It's actually, appropriately, this polling place is in a ski resort and obviously not quite the season for it. But people are really pouring in. This is the third polling place I've been to today. And it's been a pretty steady stream at each one of them. And I've been talking to folks who have been
about the trade war, the economy, what they're feeling. And it's been really interesting. Well, keep going. So first of all, I guess just a general sense of the mood, would you just on this election day in Canada, just large, big picture.
It seems like people are really activated. Like, I haven't seen numbers in terms of increased turnout, but I've spoken to at least three people today who say that they usually don't vote, but they came out to vote in this election in particular, mainly because they're concerned about the economy and the trade war. And they're looking for somebody who, frankly, will stand up to Donald Trump. Let's do let's take those one at a time, the trade war and then standing up to President Trump. How worried are people up there about the trade war?
Very, very worried. So I've definitely visited a couple different polling places in areas that are a very different socioeconomic group. So in the first polling place I went to, you had a lot more working class people, a lot more blue collar workers, very, very worried about losing automotive jobs, very, very worried about price increases that they're seeing already. Now where I am, it's a bit more of an affluent area and people were less concerned about
prices, that they hadn't really seen much impact in the trade war, but were very worried about immigration, for example, and crime, and more about keeping what one person described to me as the character of Canada. And so it's been very interesting listening to how, depending on where you sit in the Canadian economy, which issues are more important to you. But one thing that seems to be universal is
is that everybody's boycotting American products, regardless of whether they're liberal or conservative. Everybody has mentioned how they've stopped buying U.S. products. They're looking for Canadian alternatives. The gentleman I just spoke to right before I hopped on with you was saying how much he loves California wine, but he's given it up. Oh, man. And I would guess also this is a little sideways. They're probably not talking about traveling down here too much.
No, and several people have told me that they usually like to go down to the United States for vacations and they're not doing it anymore. They're looking other places to travel. They're really upset. They're bitter. Several people have mentioned the 51st state thing and very insulted by that. Although one woman told me that, you know, if Trump is effective in some of his tariff policies, he's going to be
and does indeed, you know, kind of undermine the auto industry here, it would kind of decimate the industrial base and that may end up pushing Canada to be the 51st state anyway. Yeah, I'm not going to buy that 51st state thing. Let's talk about the politics of this. Until President Trump started doing...
What he's been doing with the 51st state thing. It was the conservatives in the lead after nine or so years of the Liberal Party of Canada and Justin Trudeau as the prime minister. Now there's a new guy, Mark Carney, who is, you know, elbows up and doing ads with Mike Myers and all that. It's kind of an amazing political turnaround engineered by the president of the United States.
Right. It's been so fascinating. And I've talked to a couple of people about the switch up and I don't get the sense. And granted, I've only talked to a couple of folks. I don't get the sense that a lot of people are switching their vote from conservative to liberal because of Trump. It seems to be more so juicing turnout of people who maybe didn't care much otherwise in very similar ways that we saw kind of with Trump. Yeah, that's so interesting. So you're going to be there all week. What are the next couple of stops for you after Election Day?
I'm really fascinated by this idea of Canadians boycotting U.S. products and who benefits because of that. So I'm going to visit a couple of Canadian like grocers and farms and manufacturers to see if they're getting kind of a bump in sales as a result of all of this. And then I'm chasing down some some of these supply chain businesses that feed into the auto industry that are really going to be feeling these steel and automotive tariffs in a big way. You're going to go out west at all to British Columbia and
out that way? No, just sticking around in Ontario for this trip. But hey, maybe next time. Maybe next time. All right. We are back tomorrow. We're going to do a whole thing on the trade relationship across the biggest undefended border in the world. Kimberly will join from wherever she's going to be. We'll have an expert on Canadian trade and U.S. trade. And we'll see where this whole thing goes.
Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I should say it's beautiful weather here. Well, lucky you. I'm at a ski resort, but it's sunny and gorgeous. But yeah, we'll have the election results tomorrow. And I think it'll be super fascinating to see just how the Trump influence is shaking out in countries other than our own. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Unbelievable. The impact one guy has on the whole freaking planet.
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