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What's lost when we lose critical data?

2025/5/9
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David Brancaccio: 我报道了美国联邦政府停止追踪超过十亿美元的灾难成本的新闻。这一决定引发了人们对数据透明度和气候变化经济影响评估的担忧。政府声称此举是为了适应不断变化的优先事项、法定任务和人员变动,但这意味着我们失去了一种重要的工具,无法了解风暴、洪水和干旱等事件随时间的经济成本。 这一决定也与特朗普政府削弱政府在气候研究中的作用的更大趋势相符,这包括解雇参与国会授权气候报告的科学家。停止追踪灾难成本,将使我们更难理解气候变化对经济的日益增长的影响。 Henry Epp: 我详细阐述了停止追踪灾难成本的决定将带来的损失。NOAA的数据库之所以有价值,是因为它全面、长期,并且包含来自联邦和州政府机构以及保险公司的数据。它提供了自1980年以来经通胀调整的指标。失去这个数据库,意味着我们失去了一种重要的工具,无法了解气候变化对经济的日益增长的影响。 虽然政府指出,财富增长和人口增长在更脆弱的地区是造成灾难成本增加的部分原因,但气候变暖导致昂贵灾难数量增加的趋势依然明显。现在,我们无法再参考这个数据来了解灾难的经济成本。在报道这些可怕事件时,我经常求助于私营部门的数据,例如,对投保损失与未投保损失的计算。但是,政府数据对于全面了解灾难的经济影响至关重要。 Ron Lieber: 我揭示了大学如何利用盈利性公司提供的算法来确定学费。这些算法会分析学生信息,例如邮政编码(暗示收入)、高中历史、成绩、校园参与度等,来预测学生是否会入学以及愿意支付多少学费。 大学利用这些算法来确定录取通知书中提供的价格。然而,这个过程并不透明,学生可能感觉自己受到了不公平的待遇。我鼓励学生不要仅仅接受第一份录取通知书中的价格,而是主动与学校协商,争取更低的学费。大学给出的第一份报价可能并非最佳报价,因为算法只是在根据有限的信息进行猜测。学生可以提供更多信息,例如在申请后取得的成就,来争取更优惠的待遇。

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Does it count if you don't count it? The Trump administration moves to stop tallying the costs when tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, fires and earthquakes strike. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. The federal government will no longer track the cost of the most expensive disasters in the country. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration will stop adding dollar damage tallies to its database of events that cause over a billion dollars in damage. Marketplace's Henry Epp is here with more.

The administration says it's retiring the database to align with, quote, evolving priorities, statutory mandates and staffing changes. What will be lost is a tool that gives the public an idea of the costs of events like storms, floods and droughts over time. And there's a clear trend here. Billion dollar disasters are happening more frequently. The NOAA counted 27 of these events last year. That's second only to the year before.

The administration notes that wealth gains and population growth in more vulnerable parts of the country are part of that equation. But the number of expensive disasters is also clearly increasing as the climate warms. But now we'll no longer have that tally to reference. Now, when I cover these terrible stories, I often turn to private sector data, for instance, calculations of insured versus non-insured losses. What did this government data do for us?

Several climate experts quoted in media reports about this move say that this particular database is valuable because of how comprehensive it is. It relies on data from federal and state agencies, as well as private data from insurance companies. And it's been kept up for years. It has inflation-adjusted metrics that go back to 1980. And as global warming continues to impact our economy, climate experts argue that having one less tool like this weakens our understanding of that impact.

And this is also part of a larger trend in the Trump administration. It's weakened the government's role in climate research. And that includes the dismissal last week of scientists who were working on a climate report that's mandated by Congress. All right. Marketplace is Henry up. Thank you.

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It's like, I don't know, airline seats. When you go to college, the person next to you may be paying more or paying less. You found, Ron, that many campuses get outside help from for-profit companies to figure out what to charge your kid? That's correct, David. This has become a data game, as it is in many other industries, for-profit or not. Basically, they're trying to suck as much information as they can in, whether it's information you tell them or information that they buy.

say, after you take the SAT or the ACT and you fill out a bunch of information on those forms before you take the test. I see. Things like, I mean, they really want to know if you're going to come, if they offer you the right baggage. That's probably the key thing. Right. That's the thing that they're ultimately trying to guess, right? They're cross-tabulating your zip code, which is a pretty good indication of your income, with your high school and the history of people coming

to a college and staying at the college for four years. From that school, they're looking at your grades to see the likelihood that you'll persist or flunk out or not. And then they're checking it against, you know, have you shown up on campus? How much interest have you demonstrated? And the machines, the algorithms that these consultants rent to the colleges, you know, sort of suck all of that in, do a bunch of computations, and then essentially tell the college what offer to make and at what price.

And parents and students would love to know more about whether it's fair. I mean, we would define that in different ways, but you don't want to think that the fix is in for someone else. And if you get the thin envelope in which the college says, no, thank you, you often will feel you were treated unfairly. Yeah. So as ever, David, I just want people to know what they are up against. And I think it's only fair to pull back the curtains.

and explain to readers and listeners what's happening and how these consulting firms and their clients talk about teenagers when they think that people like me and you and parents are not listening. And, you know, one of the morals of the story is that the first offer may not necessarily be

the best offer. Some computer somewhere is guessing and making some assumptions about you, and it's on you to go back to the school and say, actually, you got it wrong. Well, that's a profoundly important tip that you're offering there, right? You're saying that you don't just have to take what's in that envelope? Nope. So, you know, you have to be, you know, careful about it and polite and

You know, if you're sitting on a handful of offers from schools that are roughly similar and you've got one that's your first choice, but the net price for that one is higher than the others, it's worthwhile to go to the school and say, hey, did we do something wrong here? Because these other schools that you compete with are offering a little bit less. And

I or my kid has actually done a lot of really cool stuff, you know, since they applied several months ago. Let me tell you about it. And is there a way we could, you know, come to a different conclusion here? Ron Lieber writes the Your Money column for The New York Times. He's also author of the book The Price You Pay for College. Ron, always good to catch up. It's a pleasure and a privilege. Thank you, David. His New York Times piece was labeled Colleges Know How Much You're Willing to Pay. Here's How.

Some Republicans in Congress have sent letters to Ivy League schools asking for the data behind how they decide what students should pay at face value. There's interest in seeing if there is antitrust level collusion going on and who gets chosen for the freshman class. But this is also seen as part of the Trump administration's more general pressure on elite institutions, universities included.

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