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Amazon's 'Everything War' with Dana Mattioli

2024/12/19
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Barry Ritholtz
知名投资策略师和媒体人物,现任里特尔茨财富管理公司董事长和首席投资官。
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Dana Mattioli
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Barry Ritholtz: 我认为Dana Mattioli的新书《The Everything War》非常引人入胜,它揭示了亚马逊不择手段地追求利润,以及其在各个行业中运用不正当竞争行为的真相。我原以为自己了解亚马逊,但读完这本书后才发现自己对它的了解是多么的肤浅。亚马逊的企业文化存在严重的道德问题,其高管为了追求利润不惜一切代价。 Dana Mattioli: 我在《华尔街日报》的职业生涯始于大学毕业后,通过撰写兼职文章积累经验,逐步晋升。我最初在《华尔街日报》担任零售记者,报道了包括JCPenney在内的众多零售公司。我的职业生涯经历了零售、并购等多个领域,最终专注于亚马逊的报道,因为我意识到亚马逊对各个行业的巨大影响。我在2019年开始专注报道亚马逊,目标是揭开其成功的秘密。亚马逊已经成为八个不同行业的领导者,通过不正当手段打压竞争对手。自从贝佐斯离开后,亚马逊似乎更关注利润最大化,而忽略了用户体验。亚马逊的企业文化存在“饥饿游戏”式的竞争,员工为了保住工作而采取极端措施。亚马逊为了追求利润增长,对产品质量和消费者安全漠不关心。亚马逊最初通过低价策略获得市场份额,成为垄断企业后,则提高价格并降低用户体验。亚马逊第三方卖家依赖亚马逊平台,但亚马逊也与其竞争,导致价格上涨。亚马逊的企业文化从其早期发展阶段就已形成,贝佐斯在对冲基金D.E. Shaw工作期间就开始研究互联网零售的潜力。贝佐斯在D.E. Shaw公司利用公司资源研究互联网零售的潜力,为亚马逊的创立奠定了基础。贝佐斯离开D.E. Shaw后,David Shaw没有投资亚马逊,反而暗示可能会与其竞争。亚马逊极度关注竞争对手,公司文化导致员工为了业绩而做出不道德行为。亚马逊为了模仿Trader Joe's,雇佣其前员工并窃取商业机密。亚马逊利用税收优势,在与其他零售商竞争中占据优势。亚马逊故意不缴纳州销售税,损害了其他零售商的利益。亚马逊获得了大量来自各州的税收补贴。亚马逊说服华尔街不必追求短期利润,这为其长期发展战略提供了空间,也损害了其竞争对手。许多零售商因为无法承受亚马逊的低价竞争,最终不得不将其物流业务外包给亚马逊。亚马逊通过向零售商收取高额费用,进一步巩固了其垄断地位。亚马逊阻止Barnes & Noble收购Ingram,阻止了其竞争对手壮大。贝佐斯最初的股东信中表示亚马逊在未来数年内不会盈利,这为其长期发展战略提供了空间。亚马逊利用其早期发展阶段的资金,扩张到多个领域,最终成为一个庞大的企业集团。亚马逊云服务(AWS)的成功源于其内部需求,并逐渐发展成为一个独立的、盈利能力极强的业务。亚马逊内部缺乏信息隔离,各个部门之间信息共享,这为其竞争策略提供了便利。亚马逊的Marketplace业务虽然成功,但其做法损害了第三方卖家的利益。亚马逊复制第三方卖家的产品,并将其作为自有品牌销售。亚马逊的Alexa基金利用投资机会窃取创业公司的技术和数据。亚马逊在投资协议中设置“残余条款”,允许其利用从创业公司获取的信息。亚马逊的员工为了自身利益,参与了公司的不正当竞争行为。亚马逊通过低价策略打压竞争对手,最终收购了diapers.com。亚马逊为了阻止diapers.com被Walmart收购,采取了极端的价格策略。亚马逊的员工股票期权设置,加剧了公司内部的竞争压力。亚马逊被认为是垄断企业,未来可能面临反垄断调查和拆分。对亚马逊的反垄断执法可能对在线零售市场产生影响。亚马逊的目标是成为一家万亿美元规模的公司。长期的宽松的反垄断执法导致了亚马逊等大型科技公司的垄断地位。Lena Kahn的法律评论文章促进了人们对亚马逊垄断地位的关注。亚马逊滥用其权力,通过掠夺性定价、控制平台和广告等手段打压竞争对手。亚马逊对卖家的收费不断提高,导致商品价格上涨。

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Key Insights

What key industries has Amazon become dominant in, according to Dana Mattioli?

Amazon is the number one or two player in eight industries: online retail (40% of U.S. online sales), cloud computing (largest globally), parcel delivery (more than UPS or FedEx), voice assistant devices, online advertising (third-largest), e-books, and Amazon Prime. They are also expanding into space with Project Kuiper.

Why did Amazon's culture become so competitive and cutthroat?

Amazon's culture is driven by its 'Hunger Games'-like environment, where employees compete to avoid being in the bottom 6% who are cut annually. Forced ranking, inspired by Intel, pushes employees to prioritize their own metrics over customer experience or ethics, leading to unethical and anti-competitive behaviors.

How did Amazon use predatory pricing to dominate the diaper market?

Amazon slashed diaper prices by 30% below cost to compete with Quidsi (parent of Diapers.com), losing $200 million monthly. They also created loyalty programs to lure customers. When Quidsi considered selling to Walmart, Amazon threatened to give diapers away for free, forcing Quidsi to sell to Amazon instead.

What unethical practices did Amazon employ against third-party sellers on its Marketplace?

Amazon allegedly copied successful products from third-party sellers, reverse-engineered them, and sold them under its private label brands like Amazon Basics. Despite internal policies and public denials, employees used seller data to identify high-margin products and replicate them, undercutting the original sellers.

How did Amazon's early tax strategy give it a competitive edge?

Amazon avoided collecting state sales tax for 20 years by arguing its warehouses didn't constitute a physical presence. This gave them a 6-10% price advantage over competitors like Sears, who had to cut prices to compete, destroying their margins and contributing to their bankruptcy.

What role did Andy Jassy play in the development of Amazon Web Services (AWS)?

Andy Jassy, now Amazon's CEO, recognized the need for scalable cloud computing as Amazon expanded. He proposed AWS, which initially focused on storage and computing, allowing startups and companies to launch without investing in expensive infrastructure. AWS became a major profit driver for Amazon.

How did Amazon's antitrust issues compare to Microsoft's in the 1990s?

Like Microsoft, Amazon faces antitrust lawsuits alleging it abuses its monopoly power. The FTC and EU have accused Amazon of predatory pricing, stifling competition, and exploiting third-party sellers. The enforcement could lead to a breakup of Amazon, similar to how Microsoft's antitrust case allowed smaller tech companies to flourish.

What was Lena Khan's role in shaping modern antitrust enforcement against Amazon?

Lena Khan, a Yale law student, wrote a viral law review article arguing that Amazon's monopoly power resembled Standard Oil's. Her work influenced the FTC's antitrust lawsuit against Amazon, accusing it of predatory pricing, anti-competitive practices, and exploiting its platform dominance.

How did Amazon's early strategy of profitless growth help it dominate?

Amazon's initial shareholder letter warned investors not to expect profits for years, allowing the company to reinvest heavily in expansion. This strategy let Amazon undercut competitors, build its 'everything store,' and diversify into areas like AWS, creating a dominant, profit-generating conglomerate.

What ethical concerns arose from Amazon's treatment of third-party sellers?

Amazon forced third-party sellers to share proprietary data, then used it to develop competing products. Sellers also faced rising fees (from 19% to 45% of revenue), forcing them to raise prices or reduce margins. The FTC lawsuit alleges this behavior harms both sellers and consumers.

Chapters
This chapter explores Dana Mattioli's career path, from her early days freelancing to becoming an award-winning investigative reporter covering Amazon for the Wall Street Journal. It highlights her experience covering retail companies, M&A deals, and her transition to focusing solely on Amazon.
  • Dana Mattioli started at the Wall Street Journal in 2006.
  • She initially covered retail companies and later M&A deals.
  • Her experience covering various industries led her to focus on Amazon in 2019.
  • She is known for her investigative reporting and has received several awards for her work.

Shownotes Transcript

Barry Ritholtz speaks with Dana Mattioli, an investigative reporter covering Amazon for the Wall Street Journal. Since starting at the Journal in 2006 Dana has produced a string of front-page articles on everything from the troubles at Kodak and J.C. Penney to Pfizer's $150 billion deal to buy Allergan. She was a recipient of the 2021 Gerald Loeb Award for Beat Reporting as well as the 2021 WERT Prize from the Women’s Economic Round Table. Additionally, she was part of a 2016 Gerald Loeb Award team win in the breaking news category and a Pulitzer Prize finalist in 2020 for her team's investigation into Amazon. She is the author of the book "The Everything War: Amazon’s Ruthless Quest to Own the World and Remake Corporate Power." On this episode, Barry and Dana discuss her path into journalism, the current era of antitrust enforcement, and Amazon's growth into the powerhouse it is today.

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