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Crazy But Correct

2024/11/22
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Jonathon Hazell认为,2020年疫情爆发前的低通胀时期也值得研究,因为这其中存在着所谓的“扁平菲利普斯曲线”难题。他与合著者在一篇论文中指出,20世纪90年代后的低通胀和之前的高通胀波动可以用两个因素来解释:扁平的菲利普斯曲线和通胀预期逐渐稳定。菲利普斯曲线是理解通胀的核心框架,它将当前通胀与通胀预期和失业率联系起来。低失业率和高通胀预期都会推高当前通胀。在70年代和80年代,通胀波动大的原因是通胀预期不稳定,这源于当时货币政策的不稳定性。1985年后,美联储信誉的逐渐增强使得通胀预期更加稳定,从而抑制了通胀波动。即使在失业率很低的情况下,通胀也不太可能大幅上升。通过构建和研究区域层面的价格通胀指数,他们发现在控制了总体因素(如美联储政策和通胀目标)的影响后,区域内通胀与失业率的联动性非常稳定,这支持了他们的观点。

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The discussion delves into why people, particularly workers, dislike inflation, focusing on the perception that wages do not keep up with rising prices.
  • Traditional economists argue that wages should rise with prices, but this paper suggests that workers need to take costly actions to ensure their wages keep up.
  • The paper posits that real wages might not change during inflation because workers are exerting costs in the background to catch up with prices.
  • Survey evidence supports the idea that people dislike the feeling that their wages are not keeping up with inflation.

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Joe Hazell, Assistant Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, joins the podcast to discuss inflation. Joe breaks down the reasons for the lack of inflation in the pre-pandemic period and the primary causes of inflation over the past four years. The team discusses why the average American is much more sensitive to inflation than unemployment and whether the Fed should rethink how it balances the two when considering monetary policy. Finally, the discussion turns to the incoming Trump administration’s policies and their potential effect on inflation over the next few years. 

 

Guest: Jonathon Hazell - Assistant Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics)

Papers mentioned in this episode: Why Do Workers Dislike Inflation? Wage Erosion and Conflict Costs) and The Dominant Role of Expectations and Broad-Based Supply Shocks in Driving Inflation )

Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn