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Do Millionaires Still Need To Budget?

2024/11/29
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George Kamel
从负净值到百万富翁的个人财务专家,通过播客和书籍帮助人们管理财务。
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Christine夫妇拥有近500万净资产,但仍然坚持详细记录每一笔开支,并根据需要调整支出。他们拥有20-30万的银行存款,超过此数额则转入投资账户。他们清楚了解各项支出(慈善、旅行、红酒等),如有必要,知道如何削减开支。Christine质疑是否需要为百万富翁制定月度预算,尽管他们已经积累了财富,并对支出有清晰的了解。 George Kamel认为Christine夫妇过于节俭,应该享受更多生活,增加支出。他建议Christine夫妇采用EveryDollar预算方法,这比使用电子表格更轻松有效,即使在经济困难时期也能帮助他们控制开支。他质疑Christine夫妇持有30万巨额活期存款的必要性,建议更好地利用这笔资金,例如投资或用于实现其他目标。他建议减少活期存款,只保留6个月的紧急备用金和用于支付季度税款的专项资金,并设立一个“沉淀资金”账户,专门用于支付季度税款,避免因税款支出波动过大而影响资金管理。George Kamel认为Christine夫妇的担忧源于对财务状况的恐惧,而非实际风险。即使出现最坏的情况,他们也可以变现部分非退休投资账户的资金来应对。他建议Christine夫妇增加支出和捐赠,平衡储蓄与生活享受,并使用现金进行高消费,例如升级车辆,享受生活。George Kamel认为Christine夫妇的节俭习惯可能源于过去的经历和对金钱的看法,背后可能存在根深蒂固的匮乏感,需要解决这些旧有的模式才能更好地理财。他指出,虽然Christine夫妇在财务上取得了成功,但他们内心并不感到富足。最后,他建议Christine阅读Rachel Cruze的《了解自己,了解你的金钱》一书,帮助她找到问题的根源。 George Kamel认为Christine夫妇的财务状况非常健康,拥有巨额资产和稳定的收入,无需过度担忧财务风险。他鼓励他们享受生活,增加消费和捐赠,并建议他们使用更便捷的预算工具,例如EveryDollar,来管理财务。他认为Christine夫妇的担忧源于心理因素,而非实际的财务问题,建议他们寻求专业人士的帮助,以克服心理障碍,更好地享受财富带来的益处。他认为,财富的积累是为了更好地生活,而不是为了积累更多的财富。

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Christine and her husband, who have a net worth close to five million dollars, discuss their budgeting habits and whether they still need to budget as millionaires.
  • Christine and her husband have tracked every penny spent for thirteen years.
  • They have a clear understanding of their spending habits and where to cut back if needed.
  • Christine questions whether they should continue with a monthly budget given their financial status.

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Cristine now is on the line in dallas, texas. Cristine, how can we help?

Hi kin George.

thanks for that. You are a bundle of sunshine.

How do we help? Thank you. So my husband and I have a network close to five millions.

right? And for the .

past thirteen years, we ve kept a spread sheet charting every penny we've spent in various categories. So we know how much we need to live on once we retire.

You'd like Georgeous favorite piece, this ism. I want to be Christine.

When I grow up, we have two hundred and three hundred thousand and our bank account at all time. And when I built too high, we transfer the cash to fidelity mutual friend. We know where we spend money filling anthropy travel and wine, and if anything happens, we know where to cut back.

We actually eat out less than we used to before we reached one billion network. We buy used cars. And my question is, do you recommend a monthly budget for your baby step millionaire? I know that's looking out the front window and i'm we've looking out the back window.

interesting. I like this concept because I think you guys should be buying nicer cars and I think you should be going to really nice dinner on on a rk IT.

Sounds like you've been too frugal and there's a scarcity mindset here. Do you feel like you're spending enough and giving enough and saving enough?

I just recently .

let us .

get business .

class .

tickets. Wow.

no, no, no, no. But we fly, we fly pretty economy back.

We are actually joke, are saying you've earned IT. I think this so you're asking, should I do a budget? Yes, absolutely. Maybe you can switch you know the spread sheet lifestyle to the every dollar lifestyle. And I think you're going to find IT far less and far more freeing yeah I think you know at this point what you're gonna spend.

And guess what if times get tough world, get back towards spread sheet and make sure that accounting for every penny here, but every dollar is going to help you do that just the same, just without the spread sheet. And so okay, I would I wanted know what you're doing with a three hundred grand. Why do you need that at all times in a .

checking account? Because I mean.

is IT a fear thing of the if the stock market tanks and we need money or what? Because you guys aren't a retirement age yet.

That sounds like well because um my husband's a lawyer so we pay quarterly taxes and each quarterly this has been forty eight thousand so I have to be ready to write a forty eight thousand check a recent arter. So yeah that's kind of the big thing but um he would have more like one hundred thousand in the account. It's me. I'm the one who .

wants how old are you do?

Fifty six?

Okay, fifty six. Now once you're at retirement age where you guys or maybe is work optional, then I would understand having a year or two of expenses talked away the highest saving savings count. But to have three hundred grand right now, IT feels like you couldn't make Better use of that money by either investing IT using IT toward a goal that you guys have. I'm assuming you guys have no debt .

and no mortgages where our houses worth .

one point eight, wow, and it's paid for.

Of course, that's the first thing we did.

You guys are incredible. So I would turn that down and go. Okay, we no need fifty grand once a quarter, but we don't need three hundred grand all at once are all year alone.

So let's turn IT down to a six months urgency fund in one high yids savings. Have another highfield savings that's accounting for the estimated quarterly taxes. Maybe it's a sinking fun where you put in however much you need. If it's every order you need fifty grand, then we're talking about fifteen grand a month going into that sinking fun to the high .

old savings yeah because the draws are like ten thousand or even nothing one month and then seventy eight thousand .

the next month you get big where that sinking fun will come in handy. But IT feels like you're leaning a little too far on on the fear side right now of what if and what if the truth is you're gonna have the money. We know the money.

He's gonna there. You guys have the money in these accounts. You have money outside of retirement other than than than three hundred grand like a non retirement .

investment account. Yeah, we have one point eight in the four one k one point eight in the house, eight hundred and twenty invest in and fidelity mutual.

that's just non retirement. eight? twenty. yeah. okay. So think about worst case, you could liquidate some of that non retirement money and you'd probably have long term capital gains, likely fifteen percent.

I don't know what you're come. Sounds incredibly high. What is your household .

income average?

amazing. Yeah you guys are crushing IT. And you know we get colors that are living more lavish lifestyles with far less with debt.

And so you guys we're doing great. I would encourage you. You may be increase the giving and spending ARM because your savings ARM. You're get the muscle there.

You're right. You're right.

So that every dog budget will help you force you to do that. You can put a fun money line item for Christine and a sounds of you guys like the travel, you like wine. Let's increase the experiences, upgrade the cars. Do IT all with cash. I don't think you guys are the type to go crazy.

But I mean, just listening to her. I I can't imagine times getting tough for them because no matter what would happen that should be so prepared there.

there's a lot you can do here when you get one point eight million dollars, one point eight in the one k eight, twenty in the broken account. I'm breathing easy.

Oh yeah. But you get the feeling she's not. You have a feeling that .

at any time you could all come crashing down. We've got A, I can't live in that a poc aleph mindset too long. No, I go not but way to go.

Christine. And there's something too you know, when a person has been tracking spending on a spreadsheet that long, I mean, that's that's a there's a deep emotion driving that. And we didn't have time nor was IT really relevant.

But to tie this into the rest of the audience going and I see myself in her, there is a, there is something in her past. They're just is the way that her parents treated money, talked about money. Something happened.

We're rated the scarcity .

oh yeah yeah because scarcity one thing I mean, it's almost like he has A A deep seated fear that things could go really bad really quickly and i've got ta be ready. I mean, when you're talking about somebody who says at all times we have three hundred thousand dollars in our checking out, we did. I mean, I believe her.

I think if he gets to two seventy five, SHE goes, oh my. And I think SHE feels a lup in her throat to get twenty five grand more. And there I really believe that and there's something there and think it's important for all of us understand how we view money comes from some thing in our past. And if we're going to get out of debt and and live like no one else, we also have to to deal some of those old patterns too. And here SHE is she's winning .

on paper yeah .

but he doesn't feel like she's winning.

And if everyone listening is rolling their eyes going, oh my gosh, this this is a real problem, but it's a real problem for castine. This is a motion behind that, right? He doesn't see the share numbers.

Most americans who on the street street, how would you feel he had three hundred thousand dollars at all times in your checking to help people would just start laughing.

Historical yeah. Mean, that's lottery winner. I'm retiring today. That's the kind of stuff here here and she's going I don't know it's enough lot of scenarios I got account for yeah but Rachel talks about this in her book know yourself, know your money, the money classroom so it's a great book for Christine. I am going to send IT to you, Christine, that might help you get to the root of this. Know yourself, know your money by your friend Rachel crews.

Hang right up the call.

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