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US and Iran Trade Blows in the Middle East

2025/6/23
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Nick Wadhams: 我认为美伊之间的军事行动可能是一种精心安排的舞蹈。美国试图淡化袭击的严重性,将其描述为针对核计划的有限行动。伊朗希望在国内民众面前将报复行动描绘成一次压倒性的回应,但实际上可能并不想造成太大的损害,这表明他们可能希望与美国重新展开对话。然而,伊朗和以色列之间的冲突仍在继续,伊朗是否会采取进一步的袭击行动尚不清楚。以往的总统可能因为担心报复或对摧毁伊朗核计划的有效性存在疑问而避免袭击。袭击可能会产生意想不到的后果,例如将伊朗的核计划转移到地下。美国需要考虑袭击的长期后果,以及这是否会导致一场无法想象的新冲突。美国的袭击可能会损害其在全球秩序中的合法性和权威。 Ariel Cohen: 我认为伊朗有能力用短程导弹袭击美国在卡塔尔、伊拉克和叙利亚的基地。伊朗的报复行动是表演性的,因为他们发出了信号,并使用了容易被拦截的系统。中国可能对伊朗进行了干预,因为中国是伊朗石油的主要客户。如果伊朗试图封锁霍尔木兹海峡,它将与包括卡塔尔在内的海湾合作委员会发生冲突。伊朗不想将冲突升级为阿拉伯与伊朗、逊尼派与什叶派之间的冲突。伊朗是否会采取更多报复行动取决于德黑兰的权力平衡。伊朗政权可能会发生变化,伊斯兰革命卫队可能不满意神职人员的统治。伊朗经济被神职人员搞垮,伊朗非常孤立,伊朗内部有不同的派别。伊朗内部有多个派别,包括伊斯兰革命卫队、正规军、自由派、保皇派和圣战者。伊斯兰主义者垄断权力,没有将伊朗转变为能够平衡不同群体利益的民主制度。许多受过教育的伊朗城市居民希望效仿西方社会,而不是中国或俄罗斯。许多伊朗人对西方、美国甚至以色列表示同情。伊朗的铀浓缩程度是民用核反应堆所需的20倍,这是制造炸弹的前一步。伊朗有足够的铀来制造八到九颗炸弹,并可能将其包装成常规炸药袭击以色列、美国或欧洲。伊朗正在建造能够到达欧洲和以色列的远程弹道导弹,并可能将其改装成洲际弹道导弹。伊朗可以从朝鲜、俄罗斯、中国或巴基斯坦获得核弹头技术。美国和特朗普总统的做法是绝对正确的。自1979年以来,伊朗一直对美国和以色列怀有敌意,并杀害了许多美国人。特朗普总统试图缓和局势,伊朗也在配合。中国与伊朗有4000亿美元的投资协议,中国不希望该协议被破坏。俄罗斯与伊朗有国防协议,但不包括共同防御,中国可能向伊朗提供了一些导弹技术。

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Iran launched missiles at a US airbase in Qatar, but the attack seemed symbolic, with advance warnings given and minimal damage. Experts discuss the potential motivations behind this limited response and the implications for future US-Iran relations.
  • Iran's missile attack on a US airbase in Qatar was largely symbolic.
  • Advance notice of the attack was given.
  • The attack targeted a base largely evacuated of valuable assets.
  • The US and its allies anticipated the attack.

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Watch Carol and Tim LIVE every day on YouTube: http://bit.ly/3vTiACF).Iran fired missiles at a US air base in Qatar after promising it would respond “proportionately and decisively” to President Donald Trump’s weekend airstrikes on three of its nuclear facilities.There were no reported casualties in the attack on Al Udeid base — the biggest such US facility in the Middle East — amid signs Iran gave advance notice of the strike plan. Qatar said the missile barrage was intercepted and the base had been evacuated in advance. Oil plunged on relief that Tehran’s limited response didn’t target energy supplies. The salvo marks another widening in the conflict that began 10 days ago when Israel attacked Iran, targeting nuclear and missile installations and military leaders. Iran has responded with several days of missile strikes on Israel, and the war threatened to escalate after the US joined the campaign with a bunker-buster bombing raid.Iran’s move “looks like a largely symbolic retaliation,” saud Ziad Daoud, Bloomberg Economics’ chief emerging-market economist. “Plenty of warning was given — Qatar shut its airspace and the US issued warnings to citizens.”Trump said the nuclear sites struck by the US were totally destroyed, and vowed to meet any Iranian retaliation with force “far greater” than those weekend strikes. He also hinted at the possibility of “regime change” in Iran, though US officials stressed that isn’t their aim. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the strikes had the “limited” objective of eliminating Iran’s atomic program. Officials have said it’s too early to definitely assess damage.There was no immediate indication of how the US will respond to Monday’s Iranian missile launch. The administration was anticipating that Iran would retaliate, and doesn’t want more military engagement in the region, CNN cited a senior White House official as saying.The attack included at least six missiles fired toward Al Udeid — the regional headquarters for US Central Command, which oversees the American military in the region, and home to several thousand US service-members — according to a person familiar with the matter.Today's show features:

  • Bloomberg News National Security Team Leader Nick Wadhams on potential Iran retaliation and security back in the US
  • Ariel Cohen, Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council on Geopolitical Tensions in Middle East
  • Torsten Slok, Chief Economist and Partner at Apollo Global Management
  • and we Drive to the Close with Megan Horneman, Verdence Capital Advisors CIO

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