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A cheat sheet for the big GOP tax bill

2025/6/12
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David Brancaccio: 我认为这项立法的主要目的是为了避免2017年的减税政策到期,因为一旦到期,几乎所有人的税收都会增加。关于2017年的减税政策,存在两种截然不同的观点。一方面,有人认为所有人都从中受益,尤其是低收入群体,他们获得的减税幅度更大。另一方面,也有人指出,大部分的减税利益实际上流向了更富有的美国人。为了弥补减税带来的财政缺口,政府可能会削减SNAP和Medicaid等公共服务,尽管参议院的提案在削减力度上可能不如众议院的提案那么严厉。总的来说,这项法案对中低收入人群的食物援助和医疗保障产生了负面影响。 Adam Michel: 我认为更高收入的美国人之所以能获得更大的减税,主要是因为他们承担了大部分的所得税。许多低收入美国人原本就不需要缴纳联邦税,因此,即使降低税率或延长减税政策,他们可能也感受不到太大的变化。 Will McBride: 我认为提案中包含了一些值得关注的内容,比如免除小费和加班费的税收,新增汽车贷款利息的扣除,以及提高老年人的标准扣除额。这些条款能否最终在参议院获得通过,还有待进一步观察。 Chris Cox: 我认为即使共和党已经计划进行削减,众议院版本的这项立法预计仍将在未来十年内增加2.4万亿美元的财政赤字,而且还需要额外增加5000亿美元来支付由此产生的债务利息。这项法案对中低收入人群的食物援助和医疗保障产生了负面影响,我认为这是非常具有破坏性的。

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This chapter breaks down the GOP tax bill, outlining changes to tax rates, standard deduction, child tax credit, and its potential impact on the national deficit. It also discusses the trade-offs involved, such as cuts to social programs.
  • Extension of 2017 tax cuts, impacting different income groups differently.
  • Permanent standard deduction increase.
  • Child tax credit increase, but not refundable for low-income families.
  • Significant tax cuts, potentially adding trillions to the deficit.
  • Offsets through cuts in services like SNAP and Medicaid.

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and have a chance to walk away with a $75 gift card. Let's all read the thousand-plus pages of the evolving tax and spending bill in Congress, but until you do, we'll have some cheat sheets. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. The Senate is working through the massive tax and spending bill. The House has passed its version, but the two plans have to be reconciled. Republicans are pushing to do this without the support of Democrats, a fraught process that requires nearly all Republicans...

Hey, David.

Fundamentally, when you step away from all these details, the reason for this legislation is many people want to keep the 2017 tax cuts from expiring, which would raise taxes on nearly everybody if it were to expire. Now, in the legislation on the table now, are there any other changes to the tax rates themselves?

The rates would stay mostly the same as the 2017 law, but this whole thing about extending the tax cuts actually gets into an interesting debate about those 2017 tax cuts. You'll hear that everybody got a tax cuts and that lower income people got bigger tax cuts than higher income people. That's what some people have as their narrative. But you'll also hear from others that most of the benefits of the tax cuts went to wealthier Americans. And

Both of those narratives are kind of true. Here's Adam Michel, who's director of tax policy studies at the Libertarian Cato Institute. Some of the larger tax cuts will go to the higher income Americans, and that's driven by the fact that higher income Americans pay the lion's share of income taxes. Lots of lower income Americans end up not owing federal taxes anyway, so a tax rate cut or an extension of one may not feel like much.

All right. So a lot of people also focused on the standard deduction where you don't have to itemize, you just lop it off. And the child tax credit. Give us some more details on changes there. Right. The standard deduction, which, as you mentioned, most people do take rather than itemize, would become permanent at the level it is now, plus go up by $1,000 to $2,000 a year, depending on your filing status, until 2028.

The child tax credit increases from $2,000 to $2,500, but it's not a refundable tax credit, which means that if you're low income and you don't end up owing taxes, you just don't get that much out of it. According to a study from Columbia University, that leaves one in four kids out of the benefit. Now, there are also some Trump campaign trail promises that made it into the bill.

Will McBride is chief economist at the Tax Foundation. There's a proposal for exempting tips and overtime. There's a new deduction for auto loan interest and a larger standard deduction for seniors. And we'll see if those provisions survive in the Senate.

All right. Now, on the other side of the accounting ledger, reducing taxes means producing revenues that flow into the government. The Congressional Budget Office says there's close to $4 trillion in tax cuts in this bill. What is the plan to compensate for this?

At this point, it looks like most of the offsets come from changing or reducing services like SNAP and Medicaid, although the proposals coming out of the Senate are looking a little bit less severe in terms of cuts than those coming out of the House. Chris Cox is director of federal tax policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The bill overall takes food assistance and health care coverage away from people with low and middle incomes.

And that is extremely damaging. Even with the cuts the GOP has in mind, the House version of this legislation as it stands would still add $2.4 trillion to the deficit over 10 years, with another half trillion dollars on top of that just to pay interest on the debt. Marketplace's senior Washington correspondent, Kimberly Adams. Thank you. You're welcome.

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After senior officials from the U.S. and China agreed on a framework to get trade relations back on track earlier this week, President Trump said two things, that it was a done deal, but that both he and China's president would have to approve. The indication from Beijing today is positive. The quote from a spokesperson for China's foreign ministry is, now that a consensus has been reached, both sides should abide by it. Details of the negotiation have yet to be revealed.

Shipping got really expensive in the last two weeks. Among the many effects of import taxes levied paused then last night a warning from President Trump that world capitals would soon start getting letters from the U.S. imposing tariff levels by country. This if these trade deals aren't reached ASAP. Despite tariffs, inflation remains tame both at the consumer level and today at the wholesale level. Diane Swonk is chief economist at the audit tax and advisory firm KPMG.

Some of that's because we saw a huge surge in inventories and many of those most at risk of tariffs did heavy discounting ahead of having to pay for tariffs. That said, in the PPI report, we did see that wholesalers, those in the middle, caught in the middle, are paying the most in terms of the squeeze in their profit margins due to tariffs.

Those are people basically storing a lot of these tariffed goods in inventory. And they're right now having to bear the brunt of the burden of tariffs. And did you see the cost of shipping across the ocean? There's a spike there. That's due to tariff distortions, wouldn't you say? Exactly. What we saw was in the days of June 2nd and June 3rd, we had the largest two-day increase in shipping costs across.

on record, went up over 40% in those two days. And that's very reminiscent of the pandemic. And there's a scramble on to get goods into the country before the most prohibitive tariffs on China are reinstated. That means ships aren't where they were supposed to be. And all those shipping costs, particularly between Shanghai and New York, Shanghai and

Los Angeles, those went up the most, over 50 percent in those two days alone. This really is a stunning surge, and those will add to the costs associated with tariffs. All right. Diane Swong, chief economist at KPMG. I'm David Brancaccio, Marketplace Morning Report from APM American Public Media. Hey, David Brancaccio here. Over the last few months, you may have heard me talk about the home that my family lost in the California wildfires this year.

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