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How to Get Better at Saying No

2025/1/14
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Sunita Sah: 我认为持续顺从的危险在于我们可能不会去思考它。我们实际上比我们认为的更顺从,即使知道建议不好,也会照做。在职场中,虽然提倡多元观点和健康辩论,但很多管理者仍然希望员工服从。这主要是因为群体压力、对顺从和反抗的误解,以及缺乏反抗的技巧。盲目顺从可能造成严重后果,例如医疗和航空领域中因害怕冲突而未及时指出错误,导致严重后果。即使并非生死攸关的情况,当察觉到错误却保持沉默也会令人痛苦。决定是否反抗需要考虑情境:环境是否安全以及反抗是否有效。要敢于反抗,需要了解自身价值观,并具备相应的技能,这需要个人努力和环境的配合。我们从小就被训练去顺从,缺乏反抗的训练,需要克服这种思维定势。从小接受的教育和家庭环境会影响我们对顺从和反抗的认知。敢于反抗并非坏事,反而有助于创新和避免错误。反抗的难度因个人的权力地位和社会群体而异,少数群体面临更大的挑战。反抗并非意味着侵略性或对抗性,而是基于自身价值观在压力下做出选择。每个人日常生活中对顺从和反抗的选择都会影响社会。识别反抗的时机,首先要留意内心的紧张感。内心的紧张感是反抗的第一阶段,不要忽视它。反抗的步骤:感知紧张、确认需要反抗、表达出来、寻求支持、最终行动。决定是否拒绝任务,需要考虑自身价值观、能力、以及对组织的影响。 Alison Beard: 作为一名记者,我主要负责引导话题,提出问题,并对Sunita Sah的观点进行总结和补充。例如,我提出了关于选择反抗时机、反抗后的应对方法以及管理者如何引导团队成员适度反抗等问题,并对Sunita Sah的回答进行了记录和整理。

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What are the key reasons people find it difficult to defy authority or say no in organizations?

People struggle to defy due to three main reasons: pressure to conform, a lack of understanding of what compliance and defiance truly mean, and insufficient skills to effectively say no or speak up. These factors often lead to compliance, even when it contradicts personal values or organizational goals.

Why is compliance often seen as a problem in workplaces despite its perceived benefits?

Compliance can lead to a vicious cycle where individuals act against their long-term goals or values to avoid conflict or gain career advantages. This behavior can stifle innovation, creativity, and ethical decision-making, ultimately harming both individuals and organizations.

What are the consequences of not speaking up in critical situations, such as healthcare or aviation?

In critical fields like healthcare and aviation, failing to speak up can have life-and-death consequences. For example, 90% of healthcare workers and only half of airline crew members feel uncomfortable pointing out errors, which can lead to preventable mistakes and tragedies.

How does defiance differ from aggression or confrontation?

Defiance is not about aggression or confrontation; it is about acting in accordance with one's true values when pressured to do otherwise. It is a proactive, positive force that can lead to meaningful change in workplaces and communities.

What steps can individuals take to recognize when it's the right time to say no or defy?

Individuals can recognize the right time to defy by paying attention to internal tension, acknowledging the situation, and vocalizing their concerns. This process involves understanding personal values, assessing the safety and effectiveness of defiance, and deciding whether to act in alignment with those values.

What is the 'defiance hierarchy,' and how does it affect people's ability to say no?

The defiance hierarchy refers to the unequal ability to defy based on one's position or demographic. Those with less power, such as women or people of color, often face higher expectations of compliance and greater consequences for defiance, making it harder for them to say no.

How can managers cultivate an environment where employees feel safe to defy or say no?

Managers can foster such an environment by demonstrating defiance themselves, making it safe for employees to speak up, and ensuring that saying no is respected. They should also consider who is consistently assigned non-promotable tasks and create a culture where defiance is seen as a positive force aligned with organizational values.

What are the psychological and emotional costs of constant compliance?

Constant compliance can lead to psychological, emotional, and even physical burnout. It often results in individuals disregarding their values, which can be soul-destroying and lead to long-term regret for not speaking up when it mattered.

What is the 'defiance domino effect,' and how does it impact teams and organizations?

The defiance domino effect occurs when one person's act of defiance inspires others to speak up or act in alignment with their values. This ripple effect can transform teams and organizations by fostering a culture of authenticity, innovation, and ethical behavior.

What is the difference between compliance and consent, and why does it matter?

Compliance is externally imposed and often driven by expectations or pressure, while consent involves informed, voluntary agreement based on knowledge, understanding, and the freedom to say no. True consent feels good and aligns with personal values, whereas compliance can lead to internal conflict and regret.

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This chapter explores the pervasive nature of compliance in society, highlighting how we often comply more than we realize, even when faced with bad advice. It also discusses the challenges organizations face in fostering environments that encourage defiance and speaking up.
  • High rates of compliance observed even with bad advice
  • Organizations struggle to practice what they preach regarding diverse viewpoints
  • Equating compliance with goodness and defiance with badness is a problem

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Our families, schools, and workplaces often train us to comply: taking on additional work when asked, agreeing with the group's consensus, and going along to get along with our bosses and colleagues. So, even when we're told to "think different" and "embrace conflict," we often hold ourselves back. But when individuals learn to say no more often, it can have huge benefits for their careers and organizations, says Dr. Sunita Sah. A psychologist and professor at Cornell's SC Johnson College of Business, she shares a research-backed framework for evaluating whether to comply or defy at work and offers advice on how to do both more effectively. Sah is author of the book Defy: The Power of No In a World That Demands Yes.