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China, AI Immigration, Rare Earths & Chips, Tariffs, Market Check | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner

2025/6/5
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Bill Gurley: 我发现人工智能的发展速度非常快,几乎每隔两三周就会有新的进展,我一直在关注人工智能领域的一些战略性转变,这些转变非常重要,值得关注。我最近注意到一个现象,我称之为“数据墙”,每个人都想利用人工智能来处理自己的数据,并给消费者或客户带来惊喜。企业应用可能会分为开放数据和封闭数据两种类型,竞争对手可能会通过声明自己是开放数据来吸引客户。阻止用户访问自己的数据将是一个糟糕的举措,我们应该保持开放,用户应该能够使用自己选择的人工智能来访问自己的数据,这将导致很多颠覆。 Brad Gerstner: 我认为人工智能的发展速度比互联网更快,公司需要尽快进行战略布局,垂直整合,并关闭数据访问权限,以便通过提供完整的技术栈来实现盈利。OpenAI的Deep Research现在可以搜索GitHub、Google Docs、Gmail、Outlook、HubSpot、Dropbox等平台。我很高兴Deep Research可以使用MCP访问我的Google服务,但我更喜欢使用具有记忆功能的ChatGPT来访问这些服务。我们应该保持开放,但我们确实看到了一些公司为了保护自己的优势而关闭生态系统的早期迹象。如果我向Salesforce支付了高额的许可费,他们却告诉我不能用自己的数据进行训练,我会非常沮丧。

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Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss the pace of AI and data walls, China’s startups, immigration and talent acquisition, rare earths, chips, China trade deal, corporate governance, Delaware incorporation rights, & more. Enjoy another episode of BG2!

Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(04:24) Pace of AI + Data Walls

(11:43) China's 1000 Startup Strategy

(26:18) Talent Acquisition and Immigration Policies

(36:24) Rare Earths, Chips / China Trade Deal

(53:46) Corporate Governance and Delaware Dilemna

Show Notes:

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China’s “Thousand Startups Bloom”)

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