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Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner

2025/1/23
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Elon Musk: 我认为没有人拥有5000亿美元的资金,第一天也没有人能拿出1000亿美元来投资这个项目。 Brad Gerstner: 白宫昨天宣布了名为“星门计划”的项目,该项目将投资5000亿美元用于建设大型AI数据中心,以增强美国在AI领域的领导地位。该计划的快速启动可能是为了展现特朗普政府迅速产生影响力的决心。“星门计划”可能是一个资金更加雄厚的CoreWeave版本,但细节仍然缺乏,存在很多疑问。 Bill Gurley: DeepSeek模型可能通过模型蒸馏技术实现了在较小规模的模型上取得与大型模型相当的性能。美国政府试图将中国排除在AI竞争之外的政策可能无效,甚至适得其反。 Rene Haas: ARM在“星门计划”中扮演着提供基础CPU的角色,为数据中心提供核心计算能力。“星门计划”的启动是多种因素共同作用的结果,包括对AGI和ASI的追求、对巨额计算资源的需求以及政府的支持。“星门计划”在总统就职后28小时内宣布,体现了新政府对AI发展的重视程度。ARM为“星门计划”提供基础CPU,支持数据中心的各种计算任务。目前,“星门计划”主要协调参与方的活动,而非作为一个独立的实体运营。 “星门计划”的规模前所未有,需要多个合作伙伴共同参与。政府在审批和监管方面的支持有助于缓解“星门计划”建设中的瓶颈。“星门计划”建设可能面临芯片制造能力、高带宽内存和DRAM以及数据中心建设等方面的限制。

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The podcast opens with a discussion of the newly announced Stargate project, a massive AI initiative involving SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, and others. The hosts analyze the project's potential impact and the feasibility of its $500 billion investment commitment, questioning whether the funding is fully secured and exploring alternative interpretations of the stated investment.
  • Announcement of the Stargate project, a $500 billion AI initiative.
  • Key players involved: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, and others.
  • Debate on the feasibility of the $500 billion investment.
  • Analysis of potential equity and debt financing.
  • Discussion of the project's potential impact on the AI competitive landscape.

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Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week they are joined by a surprise guest, and discuss Stargate, executive orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations & more. Enjoy another episode of BG2!

Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(01:21) Stargate

(15:07) Dylan Patel and Semianalysis take on Stargate

(17:56) Stargate’s Impact on AI Competitive Landscape

(29:03) DeepSeek

(32:03) Special Guest Rene Haas (CEO of ARM Holdings)

(49:46) DeepSeek continued

(51:53) Trumps Executive Orders & Regulatory Freeze

(54:10) Coordination in AI Legistlation

(59:38) US National Debt and Balancing the Budget

(1:01:08) TikTok

(1:05:48) Tech Check

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