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Data Vampires with Paris Marx

2024/10/23
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Ezra Klein
一位深受欢迎的美国记者、政治分析师和《纽约时报》专栏作家，通过其《The Ezra Klein Show》podcast 探讨各种社会和政治问题。
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Paris Marx
批判性技术作家和《Tech Won't Save Us》播客主持人，专注于揭露技术行业的真相和社会影响。
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Paris Marx：超大规模数据中心的建设正在急剧增加，这不仅源于对AI计算能力的需求增长，也与大型科技公司收集和存储海量数据的商业模式密切相关。生成式AI的兴起为持续建设数据中心提供了借口，但即使AI热潮消退，大型科技公司仍会寻找其他理由来维持其计算能力的扩张，以满足其商业利益和意识形态目标。数据中心建设对当地电力和水资源造成巨大压力，引发了全球范围内的社区抗议。爱尔兰等国家因数据中心耗电量巨大而面临电力供应紧张，甚至不得不启用本地甲烷气体发电设施，加剧了碳排放。一些地区政府已要求数据中心公司为升级当地基础设施付费，但仍不足以解决根本问题。对核能的依赖性应谨慎考虑，优先发展可再生能源更具成本效益和速度优势。大型科技公司与反民主政治力量的合作，加剧了人们对数据中心建设的担忧，其领导人追求权力，试图削弱公众权力，以实现其目标。 Ezra Klein：对数据中心建设的过度扩张表示担忧，认为其可能存在资源浪费和环境破坏的风险。质疑大型科技公司建设数据中心的真正目的，并提出将资金投入电池储能技术，以解决能源问题并创造新的可能性。担忧科技行业缺乏创新动力，其利润模式依赖于现有业务，并对科技行业整体发展方向表示担忧，认为其对社会和环境的影响不容忽视。

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Paris Marx discusses the alarming trend of hyperscalers aggressively expanding and controlling vital global infrastructure. The number of data centers has doubled in recent years, raising concerns about their energy consumption and the motivations behind this rapid growth.
  • Data centers have doubled in number in the last five years.
  • Hyperscale data centers are significantly larger than traditional data centers.
  • The rapid growth raises questions about energy consumption and motivations.

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In this episode, Ed is joined by Paris Marx, author of the Disconnect Blog and the host of Tech Won't Save Us, to talk about the historic - and horrifying - push of hyper-scalers to build out and control vital parts of the world's infrastructure.

Tech Won't Save Us: https://techwontsave.us/episodes)

Data Vampires Ep 1: https://techwontsave.us/episode/241_data_vampires_going_hyperscale_episode_1)

Data Vampires Ep 2: https://techwontsave.us/episode/243_data_vampires_opposing_data_centers_episode_2)

Paris on Twitter: https://x.com/parismarx) 

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