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Episode 170: Indiana State Fair Coliseum Explosion

2024/11/24
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Justin 和 Liam 主要讨论了1963年印第安纳州博览会体育馆发生的丙烷爆炸事故,详细描述了事故的起因、经过和后续影响。他们指出,事故发生的原因是由于丙烷罐储存在体育馆特许经营区的密闭空间内,靠近热源导致丙烷气体泄漏并最终爆炸。此外,他们还着重强调了事故发生后现场救援的混乱局面,由于缺乏协调和指挥,导致救援效率低下,加剧了伤亡。最后,他们还提到了事故调查过程中律师试图窃取证据以及最终责任认定不清等问题。Rose 则分享了她在工作中遇到的两起与小型企业有关的安全事故,突出了小型企业在安全管理方面存在的疏忽和隐患。

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The episode discusses the 1963 Indiana State Fair Coliseum explosion, focusing on the events leading up to the disaster, the explosion itself, and the chaotic aftermath.
  • The explosion occurred due to propane gas storage and handling errors.
  • Emergency response was severely hampered by lack of coordination and inadequate fire inspections.
  • 81 people were killed, and over 400 were injured in the disaster.

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They got damn tall that not the announcement .

are on the second slide.

right? I keep doing this. I yeah.

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you are actually to be.

get there. But family a IT right?

go. That's the cause in fired for cause.

K, what's going on? What's tell us what .

happening is what you see in the screen in front of you is the interior of the inDiana state fair color .

sim city view. Yes, this is obstructed.

You like the guy standing here, uh bottom right uh in the I mean it's a grey scale photo .

but like clearly with his arms, you hate one of these .

you know yeah saying is your problem .

ah yeah also is opinion to the dog. That's also just on some .

remaining concrete possible.

So you may notice there is some seats missing and a wall has fAllen over.

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we're gona talk about the nineteen sixty three inDiana state fair .

policy explosion OK.

Now there's quote from the reverent fred Rogers that's often dragged out when there's .

a tragedy or a disaster .

or something we .

believe the car is can be present.

Fred Rogers said, when I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, look for the helpers. You will always find people are helping to this day, especially in times a disaster. I remember my mother's words, and I am always comforted by realizing there are still so many helpers, so many caring people in this world.

beautiful.

Yeah, that's for kids. That's not for you.

Today we're gone to learn what happens when there are a lot of helpers, maybe too many of them.

Oh god, no. Well.

so rushed. My childhood sense of security, actually.

But first we have to do announcements.

and now I don't have a drop for this. Yeah.

exactly.

Is no announcement.

The .

new york.

City and boston shows that we advertised earlier have sold out. We have added an extra new york city show and an extra boston show. Links to tickets for that will be in the description. There are the twenty eighth and thirty th of April, respectively. I believe I .

can't wait until we keep adding shows as they sell out and we end up booking me into what is functionally a six months east coasts residency.

Yeah, that's going to be that's going to be a lot of episodes to put together.

And with the god we going to do an episode on cocaine as we're on cocaine.

I've never done coke in my life, but I think if ever there was, if ever there was a time to do that was IT would be like two minutes before going on stage for the cocaine live show.

that would be pretty good.

On the other hand, if if I say, if I say that to customs and immigration, I will never be allowed to enter the united states again.

So let's not do a cocaine show to drugs.

Yeah um as for the other shows and watching A D, C, we still about a third of the tickets left as of recording time uh in philadelphy at the fill more we .

need to fill more seats yeah so that exactly.

So by those tickets there, they're still about half of them left. Sorry if the tickets are kind of expensive, we don't control the Prices. Live nation ticket masters then the outside of .

our control yeah well a the SONY hall, uh, where we're playing because we're playing time square a real sentence.

I have to say, no, yes yeah.

Uh, they they they sent me an email after I said I was testing something for the part they were like coming to like so do we want to talk about the toy drive .

or do .

you have a OK to?

Yeah great. So last year hugues, are you right? So I was talking to my a eric listening. I'm sorry she's like our development director so had to like fun raising and stuff like that. Ah the hague have donated between when we started donating last year so like november of twenty twenty three two about now the hawks of race twenty seven thousand six hundred eighty three dollars there about which is a tremendous amount of money for the place I work which is called settlement um we do social work.

We do domestic violence, uh counselling, prevention, housing as we have a senior center, we have a food patchy kind of everything to everyone to fush with mary Parker putting her in command, sum up or equal income to believe but yeah so the hague have been glorious but I am appealing to the hague today because because I once again, we are doing the toy drive up for kids at our shelter that's called gene and place and kids in our domestic violence program. Uh, I will bully rose into linking. We have an amazon, a wishlist that's the easier way for us to do this. We're not doing the P O box like last time because i've got sick of going to the P O box every day and having the post office employees be like that mother fuck er is again.

you were literally bringing toys to at risk youth and and the post office were like this mothers, what I told face again.

I told what I was doing. They became very sympathetic, instant ane ously.

which was pretty you, a massive gold card to play on anyone who fuck with you, which I think is really like it's not a very well rewarded task. But that's one of the few perks that there are, you know.

yeah, absolutely like, I will come in the back, get a car and they would, like, poke me up at the loading dock.

which was pretty funny. It's like rewards are the lofty of children and making a postal worker feel just horrible about themselves.

I hope that.

So I rolled my eyes at the guy who is .

basically santa yeah jewish yeah you if you want to donate a toys um I would appreciate IT. I'll also have a the just the donation link to love and element house if you hate toys and want your dollars did not go to children at all, but but exclusive to hungry people in our seniors .

if you're on some kind of antin alist beef, but you're still charges of all like, but these kids, but also like, you know, I want to do a good deed, I guess you could do that yeah i'm all i'm gonna another year has gone past. And you know these children that they need the scale model ork hunters know.

and there are the hamet. So I already .

seen the comments popped up. I was I was very .

pleased about that. I will say to those of you, there are some people who have donated. I don't have the names in front of me. I don't want to dog and who IT essens, but I do want to say there are several of our listeners who have donated in the thousands of dollars, so different and that is extreme.

And uh if there's no a flag in our um a flag in our our donation software database that if you donate and IT gets flag um and I have time between uh whatever is I do at work, I will be writing you a note on a posted within reason because they are sensor g by I ve always been told numerous times that I will be censored. That is my plug. E, thank you for this thing.

Thank you for giving us money. Thank you for enabling us to help by survivors of domestic violence, old people and the hungry. We are deeply .

appreciated about. Ve IT, absolutely. yes. I was in that like I did something. I didn't do shit.

Now this is not. Well, now you're on the podcast and therefore getting the, the, the message out.

I yes. I yes. exactly.

This is a group effort. Here is just the way of doing most of IT.

as as enveils ja said, between the albanians and the chinese, we can rise like over a quarter of the us. population.

I mean, this is, this is, but maybe not group effort. The word I would use there as group project. Yeah, one person does most of work OK.

I need to be very clear there. There are people who are who are doing the work with, like is working at je Adams and working with survivors of domestic violence much more intimately. The ideal I and I just want to say they are they deserve the uh none of the credit. I deserve all of IT. I have I I I have believed the great powerful now today like your fucking .

in kids just put that on like a lot of rainbow, like animated text you across the screen don't hit your kids.

Yeah the boy, you know ah yeah, let's let's get into the mean potatoes and minutes that .

was nicer, uplifting. So it's time to do the goddam knows.

Yeah.

we blow IT. We live in how the once and future .

president has returned.

You see here before you on the screen the text that I sent to my extremely worried group chat the night of the election when I was going to bed and I was like, i'm not gonna stay out for this. I'm not going to talk to myself because it's gonna be fine, it's gonna be fine.

It's gonna like you going to get a shy liberal and things, you're going to continue basically the same, why stay up? why? Why feel anything about this? And unfortunately as a suffer O C D, what I realized now is in that moment I failed to observe my my rituals and my compulsive behaviors, and I drinks that my cause to Donald trump t to become president again.

So I am very sorry if if you're looking at like net good and evil, this podcasts is put out into the world. Liam is helping the kids. I got Donald .

trump. Y, I did all of my rituals. Yes, and I still didn't work.

No, because I didn't do mine, right? This is the thing looking for the one O C D person who didn't do the thing, and that's me, is my fault. This happened.

I I will say, I I whatever. He's a beauty pro life, very crat. But a bob casey refusing to wave the flag, like two weeks in when I oh my god, were eight days .

out .

of IT, is .

to the .

general.

I'm pretty sure that's just a blue ribbon on commission in .

order to get him out of the way. But even still like I don't plus you might kill .

everyone here. Here's a toy. You can play .

Mandatory neuro link for every us, isn't that's that's what we say in two years is time.

I know a lot of a lot of people out there are struggling. And like even from an ocean away, I kind of you because the whole plan a little bit fucked off of this. I worry a lot for the american.

I very love my american friends. And um I mean, I didn't I once I I was felt the vibes that things weren't going calm as well and I ignored them. I was like i'm going to listen to the the polls.

I'm going to listen to jan cell, whatever yeah and and I I was wrong to do that. What I should have been doing is turning my light switches on and off. H an equal number, an even number of times. That's a multiple of four, but not of six until he feels right and I didn't do that and now this is happening.

I had a conversation ah with my dad about politics, which is something I can very rarely do right after a camera was got got the nomination when biden dropped out yeah I was like, do you think she's got the juice? Dad was like, no and I was like, no, I don't think .

so either and then .

add suppress that feeling for the rest of the election as I I don't I don't think she's going to do at folk for me how .

how many people, including me, on the left, or even on the like center left, like left liberals or whatever, that whole sphere managed to convince ourselves that there was that he was gonna pull that off because he was bats.

Yeah, really, really, really serious group thing care, I think. Yes, the other weird thing is just how I would say this election has been very paris social in a lot of ways. I don't know if is the first one, but this this applies to both sides because blood of people who voted for trump were like, you know, they interviewed afterwards. I don't think he's gonna all the bad stuff. I think he's just saying that, you know, for laughs.

there are people who voted for trump t then voted democrat down ticket in order put .

a break on trump somehow. A similar thing with, like kamala, one of the things is I don't know if you remember any, the the big group calls that were you know .

what the week with .

one of them yeah .

and one .

of them was like, i'm sorry to do this because I know some of the people who organize that are probably listening. There was one that was like train lovers for Harris. And I looked at that and I was like, what are you talking about? She's not going to do any of that and and now .

he definitely won't.

They already did infrastructure. They're going to touch that again. You know, everyone was projecting everything they liked on to both of the are of candidates and they kind of I don't know they they won't know where I looked at our policy page, which is still up yesterday, I was like and I looked .

that I was like.

there's nothing shit there. Yeah, I mean, people were talking about up. How do you say, you know, democrat should have campaign on this or that they should have been less woke.

They should have been sold itself. Th, I think they should have had a policy. I think, yeah, I just one single policy I I think would have been a nice thing to to say, hey, vote for us and we will deliver this to you.

The labor party got involved, didn't they? Yes, the later party are alleged IT to having any policies other than occasionally ones that are extremely harmful to vulnerable people such as trans. So yeah, I know and over you get involved again.

I I have a question. I A question. So i'm dark, Brandon, right? I'm trying, joe. Everyone made a huge deal about his rail credentials, right? And so, you know, made a huge fuss about this big instance investment.

How much of any of that actually is progressed at all? And is that is all of IT just going to get I I assume that none of that even got to the point that there will need to be cancer by the republicans because I don't know any actual rail projects actually being proposed than just big talk. So so what's actually where we actually out with any areas?

I would say the some total of progress which has been made, the new orleans to mobile train is probably going to go through they're too foreign and that there is now one extra train from, uh, chicago to mini apple is can .

we get the funding approved for more pennsylvanians?

Ah yes, that's also going through. There's going to be one extra train from philadelphy a pitzer g at the cost of several hundred .

and million dollars. Beautiful mostly .

that's mostly improvements through north ic.

southern legacy. What legacy that the worst american president and that's like there is a lot of .

northeast court or improvements which are going through at this point. They are mostly bridge replacements that replacing the B N P tunnel in baltimore, they are probably going to manage to forced through the gateway tunnel in new york city this time around probably is well under way. Um but that's all you know northeast court are improvements in projects like expanding the long distance same track network or like you replacing the long distance fleet uh that that's all up in the air still.

I mean, so the democrat did the classic thing and they do this with women's rise to do with all this of where they say they basically don't do IT and don't do IT so that they can hang IT over everyone for the next election. And they have been doing that for four years, where they say, so you have to vote so that we can qualify what you have, just wait to the next one, then you will .

do this .

is the most important election of our lifetimes because you it's about child .

Carry in two thousand four.

Yes, I think maybe made this election about confine rovers. They might .

on oration in a way nobody gave. I kind of feel .

like none of us know, is the thing like I I I made I made the mistake of thinking I knew what was going on. I knew what I was talking about. I know I have no qualifications to do so I made the mistake of like thinking things could ever be good which I know I shouldn't um and I I didn't touch light which is enough instead of I touch her gross instead .

of a light switch and flip the light .

switch three times yes, no, no, no, no no like three times that have been wrong like four times unless IT feels wrong n 1 but then you've .

had no effect because the lights gone on and you have to have an odd number .

to have an effect no, no, no that's not .

OK either the lights are always on or always off yeah.

Correct yeah yeah. This is .

the self.

Don't worry about the lights in my house and I know how many furniture in that just turning the light enough on an empty room. But yeah no I mean, obviously the thing is right, we can go through because it's everybody's fall um it's like IT is your fault t for if you voted for her, not voting for her enough, it's your fault you didn't vote for her. Is joe biden's thought for uh like setting her up to fail? It's her fault for losing its tim walls is fault it's .

trumper for winning tim time I feel like a got a bit too much of .

the mud put on my eyes.

Yeah exactly.

It's like devens fault for telling you not to vote. Um is fucked in tins probably or something because of russia gate I did you can you can play this blame game all day.

And I kind of doesn't matter because all we really know is that, like even if you have the perfect theory of change and of how to win elections, the democracy party have indicated to you, but they are not going to listen to IT, right? They are gonna the thing that they wanted do. They are gona run things that way, and that way loses every time.

Yeah, me about about all you can say as well. I went poorly, but I don't know if you got a different way. yeah.

No, I don't. I don't know if there was a campaign that could have run in three months where SHE was like vice president of someone's unpopular is your biden that could have one even if that had been SHE would never have run IT because you know the people involved would just never to feel comfortable doing that.

So here's the thing. I'm a moron, right? That's absolutely put that. But but I have just written a book that did a lot of discussing.

I can repeat the point that people can get too locked into the kind of fluctuation events and not look at the macro. The macro here is and it's the same in the U. K.

With the budget. We just to be onest, we just had a budget that says its record investment and yet none of that will be seen by the lowest income people. And that's exactly what happened with the big investment tragedy of the democrats .

said they were the money fuse. You refuse to acknowledge that people are suffering. I don't think any different.

I don't think any campaign could have want this for the democrats because they've fuit by their broad economic policy of we're going to do big investment, but it's all going to appear to big corporations to make line go up rather than to actually land in the pockets of people who are struggling. And the only person is actually promising economic .

change was trump yeah. They maintained the theory that the democrats run basically anyone besides maybe a couple of people, uh, and trump out of one. And I think a lot of these people like trump, hard is hard for us on the left to get that.

But like I I the guy, I think you detect more on, but people love them and I was reading the new york times article that came out today because I uh I am a as well about like White undecided voters in twenty and twenty who they voted for. And number one, I have a bone to pick with the there's a woman in their named like my clane like that in the claim. yes.

yeah. And he was like, he was like, I was I was swayed by the trump. They then vote like, I was gonna vote before that and SHE vote SHE wrote in romney. And I was like, here you ve lives come back but I think I do think that like, yeah, people wanted to vote for trump. Like we have to deal with that on the left and even with our our liberal friends friends .

sort of quotes there, yeah, I did. I mean that, I mean, this stuff that people like about trump is that he's funny and he he feels like he's gonna like, be strong and he's gonna like, fuck with trigger all of the like liberal institutions that everybody hate. I do like two of those three things already, right? So like if there's a lesson from this, it's it's like get more like a podcast. I kill yourself.

don't people? The left, the left, joe rogan.

apparently I was called .

that mean.

now this is the thing and that was a big piece of discourse like couple days ago. Um you know there's this whole ecosystem of left towing podcast that you know showed up over the past, you know eight years or so since the bernie run. And I guess the liberals just have no idea we exist.

Didn't like move the little little because we didn't want to because we .

felt like ambiguous. I rather and the podcast beat you to the death of the sore.

Yes, we get live. I just I think yeah, maybe I am very simply in, but I think a lot of people in the U. S. Are feeling fuck as like the cost living is getting worse and t, they can actually get for a dollars getting smaller. And the two parties and one of them says we aren't change in shit and the other one says, i'm gonna change even if it's fashion, then you're going to be inclined to vote for the person who does something because at the moment you're fuck and someone telling you we're not going to change anything is is not appealing.

Yeah, I .

mean.

I said this on tf, right, because like one of the things that rilly on is going to contextualize this is within this like global shift. right'. Ds, right? And I need not always be. So that's not just like weather, you know, it's because of stuff happening.

But speaking of weather, one of the things that like uh is is like profoundly affecting this is climate change, right? And we we saw in spain, I don't we probably should have put this in a separate nose. I want to talk about IT now um we saw like absolutely catastrophes flooding like caused by climate change, like hundreds of people dead and .

santiago cola travel putin at big art center where the river yeah and like spain.

spain has a sort of the left government that clung on by its fingernails and coalition in the last election. And the reward for that is a something that is just like, makes IT obvious untangle this whole thing is, you know and like, of course, that's gna drive you into the arms of whatever party is like, know what's what's do you know, causing this shit is h, you know.

immigrants or whatever? Yes, to say about democratic party, go on harder. And ati, immigrant was a bad idea as a dropped opposition to the death penalty. Of course, no one just wanted to do anything about gaza, and no one touched that issue. They that way worse, they said they .

look to michigan of that shit like whatever anyone tels you, that doesn't matter. Like they lost like big cities in michigan. They lost the college towns in michigan because they were like, kids, we're getting fucking path spread.

Yeah, my kids just didn't show up to vote. I mean, that was definitely, well, obviously kids are under eighteen. They should not show up the vote, that little fraud. But the Young people .

could not show up and lame.

like since. So I turned eighteen in two thousand nine I voted socialist. Twelve I voted for hilary clinton, and I voted democrats. Sense because they've been fucking against truck, who, regardless of his politics, I just, I can't stand his voice, like his speaking voice. And when people do their trade presence, IT makes me mad.

Glad you said that sense, sense because I was I was gearing up.

I was meli people did like friend of the show time paye does does like a pretty spot on .

top and pressure and .

IT makes me furious.

Very mad folks, very mad in my life.

I will beat you to death with own shoes.

Is he triggered? I don't know.

but I was just like, I can't see this all my .

entire and fish in fish.

In my or whatever you want to call like voting career, it's been just like, oh, this is the most import like we'll do at this time. You guys will make life measurably Better. I wanted to force when when people can buy like eggs and meat, they're going to vote for the other guy even if the other guy is like as long as they just say change because the medium dip shit.

I also to say that you know that that no one was going to address you know the big sources inflation that have been obvious in our, you know, fixed costs that everyone has rent, health care, higher education.

Yes, egg sixty .

seven.

I wanted yeah, I want what the democrats you saying, medicare for all and just flatly leave. In fact, you even gave them the a few experts go. You even gave the headline for the legislation, just medicine for all. They would immediately save, save like every american on average, like hundreds, if not .

thousands dollars, is my dad's idea. When he was arguing with gland back on fox, I made the ship before, make IT again. And my dad was like, I could do IT a one sense and stain some amErica here by adopts universal health care and empowers or delegates, uh, the secretary of health and human services, to implement same done one sense we have universe and health of care.

That's one. That's one page.

Yeah yeah. Give my dad secretary of health and human services ah di day, I know you're a big fan.

I take back.

I take back whatever i've said about you or whatever. Get by dad. A J S the thing .

because now they want to put R F K into something, and he's every .

time .

is he does .

want to ban camm trails. Basically be good. That's gonna good for the railroad industry because we just won't be able to fly planes anymore. Yeah.

I look ford to. Yeah.

good. I I just every time I think about the election, I think about a new way in which all of us are fuck. And I I haven't run out yet to a new one every time.

So I, I just, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to say. I ski street waffles and like, fuck you, if you live in the united states, you can do IT legally.

If you feel like you can do IT safely, I think it's something I would do. I loved the U. S. Like, no question I wouldn't about IT um because he is gonna get like as bad as IT is now it's gonna get so much worse.

I was bad to say we need we need .

a liberal wako yeah talking .

about that changing climates and mass water, yes.

bad to say it's got the other side of the world. In sabia they're put in a panic canal numbers more than panic canal number look like sort of, you know this yeah a White t over .

one missing jorn .

together I am in the line .

and and missing in this case presumedly like .

bury alive and tend show something yeah yeah.

Really confused at how you can put up those numbers with modern construction .

technique.

Actively have to like this, a couple of guys to death. Every shift .

are visible from space numbers like like I I yeah. So it's funny because I recently was working in a company and I joined the company and then realized that that company sister, everyone is a in a and sister are working on neo. And I come in and they're are working on neo.

And I was like, we working what? And the people at top genuinely comments myself like, you know, obviously they know they're in practice that we can change IT from the inside like the fuck are you talking about? Why do you? Why do you think that? Have you ever .

been left?

They like, k, so, yeah, so, well, the breeze time that I was a sister, I was basically going where we should not bid for this is extreme hires. We should not be. This is me, the listing of all the new stuff that we were trying to get, partly because all engineers consulting is in the U. K. We had driven insane by the fact there isn't any work here so they start doing that stuff like what crazy ship .

money can we go for? Like one of the places that that is building stuff and it's a short .

live yeah a giant is an extremely long ditch um that is, I hope, not gonna much more. But theyve killed one hundred and killed or lost one hundred and twenty one thousand nepali indian di kistler.

People who come into the country have .

their passport confiscated. absolutely. It's essentially endangered svy ude and have pretty grim working conditions. And send a bit of money if back to their families and and then apparently don't even, don't even get recorders is dying. You become lost. And then the king of the side, arabia, pretends that you weren't and gets upset that the western commentators are are talking about you. We one hundred .

thousand different videos, these guys walking backwoods out of the airport so it's .

good understand how it's it's like um what are they doing? Are they like trying to you know bless the .

several tunnels .

for .

this project entirely .

people to understand .

design process for this is bad. Imagine what the like of like works oversight for this is, know what do you think that kind form for this look like that .

aging people at in front of the scrapers? You know, I don't understand .

if I listen. I don't mean to be so of like, I don't mean to brag, but i'm pretty certain if you put me in charge of a construction crew of a hundred people, I could find a way to kill all of the maxim.

You know what novel? I don't know if you could. I honestly do not know how you build this many people without shooting half of them.

Image, imagine i'm like a very junior sauty princess like failed daughter like I don't like the same job and i'm like, okay, now I need all of these guys to stand in front of the botox .

just in that killed all those people by shooting them emo to the budget. Expensive because we in america.

And this this .

is a politics.

So so my call, are there lots of engineers out there, lots of my fellow design engineers out there, but others as well in like the people in the U. K. Right now, if you were on this and you're kind of like, well, you know, I was told to work on this job and and like, I do not say no, you can move out of the project or you can threat them with leaving.

Say no, give your line manager the stories about this, the stories about the indigenous populations being murdered. You should not be working on this stuff. You have blood on your hands.

If you work on this project, step away from IT, call IT out, shout out to new service engineer, which is like an incredibly middling sort of engineering business to business publication. But they've been going theyve been gunning for this. They've really pushed hard on like making a point of this on shaming some of the U.

K. Companies work on of which there are a long list. So fair play. new. The engineer magazine, doing some proper genuine journalism. The big media companies just haven't been actually calling out engineering consultants and engineering companies in the U. K. Who have been working on this universities involved in this stuff to stop IT abandoned k sa, just because he has a lot of money does not mean that you should be sniff .

as us get out there, says the bad project folks. You know, I I, I my concentration of drexel was in construction management. And one thing they drill into us that drags, which is otherwise, you know, I don't think they were very good at engineering ethics there. Um every worker has the right to leave the job site on injured yeah and he hear in the kingdom si arabia, apparently they've managed to install some kind of rob gold berg machine that they just toss all the workers and you know instead of that you know I just .

I stacker.

It's a really big number .

in return .

for in return for what?

Yeah exactly.

For a very efficient site.

I can go back to the shame if you want to understand what these projects are, why they exist and how fuck stupid they are. The episodes, sure. Everyone, listen, this has because is a brand epsom, but if you haven't go back steps, so to understand what the hell is going on with these projects.

But like this is IT cannot be stressed enough that these these are planet killing projects. They serve no useful function. There are like maybe two projects as part of a as vision twenty thirty that are useful, which are railway projects, dedicated railway projects that have nothing to do with the om.

But I like the majority. The twenty thirty stuff is shit like this. It's like five hundred meter high mirror stuff that is just planet killing projects that we shouldn't progressing, like no one on the planet should be letting N B S.

Build a sorry, I don't getting angry elevated about this stuff. This is like a typical situation where my fellow engineers, we don't we are not all ethics, and this is the fucking in result. This is the result is, is that british engineers, shit on to them, are working on this stuff, are going out to saudi and doing this year, are working on this stuff as sign engineers, as consult the engineers. Why are you doing this? Stop IT the money is not worth IT you have hands of .

blood on your hands. Like the only like situation in history that this feels comfortable to in terms of like the turn rain feels like french sand ommen now hate where they did just, you know, run through slaves at an incredible rate, because they just considered people completely disposable.

Yeah.

you know, this is a, this is ugly. This is ugly to comprehend.

Yeah, it's a lot of that around, do you know? Yeah.

let's blow .

something up.

I was about to say that was the god dam knows. Give me one second. I got to get a up there.

Continue to m going. Na, take a minute to talk about how the bad thing, I, I, I can't stress enough. How much are not an authority on any of this? I just know that that sucks.

I don't have a prescription for anything. Don't i'd like, don't get mad at me because I don't know either. I don't know .

anything other than my god.

Liberal delusion, liberal complacency. Those are the words that just come to mind is like we on the left of doomed to remember, right? If you do nothing and people get poor or anyway, we've we've been never done that, let's let's start about explosions and once rose comes back with beer when we did to go.

let's .

do .

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yeah OK.

稍微 的 点 okay.

what is propane?

What is what .

we're organic chemist? Yeah it's .

bad to say, yes, a lot of organic chemistry this season yeah proper in a three carbons eight hydrogen s that's propound is really nice, good, clean burning fuel. Now propound, as sold the consumers, is a type of liquified petroleum gas like it's a mixture of propane, small amount of proper in and some mother trace .

gases stuff.

Yes, so to make a smell .

so that you can there's sell free stuff so actually smell if IT leagues look stuff like that.

Liquefied petroleum gas can also include beautee in other chemicals, but commercial propane is ninety percent prop in. And then the stuff you used in, like a propane girl that's like ninety five percent proper.

oh wow. O K yeah.

Um so prop in is gaseous room temperature. And so therefore they liffy IT um by cooling IT down. And they store IT in pressurized tanks, which you can then purchase and take home with you for your proper in grill.

No, have have a liquified pressurized gas you can use to cook mates .

on exactly exactly. It's reasonably safe. It's reasonably clean. It's reasonably convenient.

It's part it's it's a very like hand coil type of film.

Yeah you don't have to, you don't have to clean out the grill afterwards. I am a charcoal guy. I am just, I could show, I like the taste meat and the heat.

And I think I D like three almost finished camps and prophetic stairs from your camping. Those are, I like having been used twelve years, so they are probably be .

ready to just explode.

upstair. Irs, that's fine. Theyve all leaked out by now.

Well, that's also set max to the plastic cup of old B R track death ires.

They're also exclusive.

It's a good .

works like C, P, S. Number one, baby.

yeah we have different .

parts of the thing like have the nuclear bomb and the basement get if you have the explosives in .

the attics so ah yeah it's .

a simec one inherent .

issues to me. I was going to get the fertilizer, but one inherent .

issue that sets protein and other liquified petta lian gases apart from sea natural gas, or like few loyals that propels a dense gas, the cellars springs the league. E for some reason, the gas will flow out of the tank and IT will pull on the ground instead of dispersing into the air.

Don't blow your house if you have a linker .

propanol istra's baby, I open some windows. So that's why you should store prop in outdoors.

And if you blowed up, it's the .

ground's problem. If there is a league is dispersed ed by the wind, that's why you usually stored in like a big cage with like individual cylinders. Or if you .

run this time, i'm just run this time. I think about my color upward for people outside. Yeah page. okay.

Yes, look good. If you need a bunch, you have a dedicated tank, which is also outdoors, a design event to atmosphere.

vent to atmosphere. Okay.

cool.

So prop in is also authorized, so you'll be able to smell the leak and know that when you smell IT, it's time to get out of the area. Prop in has many commercial uses for fuel, for vehicles or forever industrial equipment. A lot of four clips run off a propac.

I want to say yeah, he can also be used as an erstwhile propelling. Um there's a lot of a newer heat exchanges or or heat pumps that use IT as a refrigerant because it's more environment friendly than clora Flora carbons and also works a lot Better. And of course, another aspect where propt is used is in commercial kitchens, especially those that are like off of a natural gas distribution system. It's a lot more convenient to transport, then compress natural gas broke pains like three hundred and twenty PS I or so compress natural gas is like twenty four hundred psi. I want to say he's a man bust container .

you're running like massive, like gas burning, like stove tops off of IT.

Yeah exactly. Um now in this presentation, just because the sources I is we're going to refer to propane, liquefied petroleum gas interchangeably, I should mention the big source I used for this was disaster and I le thirteen it's a report on sort of the emergency response to this. This incident more than IT is about the actual incident that's available on internet archive.

You would hate to hit disaster on all thirteen over the like tanat a supermarket.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

The code.

you know yeah yeah. A quick. This is not epsom where someone who one of the sources that you use, rose, came into the comments and like, that's that's me. I role that so I shared, like.

I hi.

yes, what is a state fair? And why does .

IT need a color C. I station?

Are we? Are we .

familiar with the hips stationary brand field notes?

Yes.

we aware that they did a you'd like them just a little like kind of like to staple uh like cardboard notebook thing. But IT has like a pretense of being unpretentious, is meant to be like a farm as old monaco. What like something you would use for like an engineering maybe um I and so they do a lot of like special editions and I I had a box set of one per state in like different colors.

I was a lot like you know of gold foil uh thing with some fun facts about the states. I I you know this is know the california t book out of the box set and this is all the stuff that california exports or whatever um and you know I I I use these for like years and years and years and so because of this I not only know state capitals, but I also know what a state fair is. And a state fair is where you like go to like a location in the state and you look at like a cow made of button, or you look at the like the best pig from this .

state using some button made of cows.

Yeah, see something taking you to the the the 啊 show。

I have not been .

to the farm show. I would like to go to the time show.

My understanding of IT is is you and whoever is running for president, if it's a swing state and an election year, go to this place, you see some cultural activities are you consume some very strained .

vy like high .

fat and car hind foods you .

have and. Yeah, that's a good point. I mad at me. I tripped over room in .

the kitchen yesterday.

The SHE is cries one thousand .

years .

um yeah so you know this great place .

you can show off your biggest livestock, your giant vevey tables in your enormous fruits. Eventually there are side shows, attractions that show up. You can go on a fair. Will you go on some kind of fold up dark ride, little tiny roller coast mary go around the ata.

I wonder, is possible to do account of nights tour situation to go to every state fair in like the same year?

Oh my god, I think they're all roughly in the same .

season as the issue. Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of traveling. And like some of them, like hawaii and alexa would fuck you up to travel.

You also have shows or events. You might have horse racing .

or a concert or auto content.

Yeah deo d demolition derartu .

motion derby, many bans and derby, but with pick up trucks, monster trucks, demolition derby, but with they easily have a lot of demolition derby. You might have attracted pull too many red neck things. Very exciting and fun. yes. Yeah.

do republica be me at the devil when ted, like idle of job, I not my car.

The cama Harris car at the demolition .

painted bright Green and neck injuries someone ever had to.

But i'm so july yeah .

like the is is a big but now .

it's about the thing of being like he could have been legended SHE could have had like a rain of power. It's a totally restructured the us but like know the hubris and tying herself to the thing made IT like really, really taken to notice him. He lost out on power and IT emerges. I'm talking about chili X E X.

You would want to loop like that guy, the progressed, or guy, when as a heal the progressive liberal where people got IT was a bit. Um yeah I would not I don't know. I see in the Harris walls car at the demolition derby would be .

very funny ah crushed .

into a key instantly that's a horrible delicious fried foods. Go to the state fair is a good time. The inDiana state fairs in particularly, you can visit the midway.

You can see automobile il racing. They're going to race track because, you know, it's inDiana. The indian apple is five hundred .

is not so far off. See the local .

four age show after livestock. You can see high school marching bands in competitions. There's also a hot air balloon race.

How do you write? how? What I am .

the person to get value near the county where the finish line is winds.

Now this need .

to do this like A J for for the first time in history, the inDiana state balloon races been one by the people's republic of china.

piloted by balloon boy, ever.

that god.

In the past, there were such exciting events as philosopher destrier ism was very, very early. bicycles?

No, no, yes.

yes. Or diving.

That's so bad for the horse.

I like IT cruel .

and of course they had A U genc. event.

Mean, it's a logical progression in the sense that you have a bunch of a like planters and like branches going, yeah, this is the best cow we bread in the state this year. And family racist by the transitive proposing that .

this is the best baby we read in the state this year. Yeah, we've moved past such things as philosophy.

destrier ism.

Eugene ics. So to talk about the state, fair color. Sim.

why is golf eld in this?

What why Garfield .

is in this? In the this .

was a works .

progressed, administration of construction. Yeah, this this was actually renny ed to cortez. A color sim today happened today. Yeah the fuck is a court tao is some kind of big agra business.

of course.

of this year. The monsanto farmers called him, yeah, okay yeah.

That IT was the indian of farmers coliseum and before that IT was the peepsy colossian.

You hate to see a kind of small local producer like pepi bought out by Olivia and like inDiana farmers yeah so it's .

only so there's a thing every year called the the royal well show like the U. K. Has like farmers shows kind like lots of elements of this but without some of the .

american aper much cheaper yeah and and .

I suppose this is the parallel like the fact the royal well show happens every year is in the same place IT has permanent structures, so lots of its like tents and temporary stuff. But you for the thing that you know, you need to have lots of people seated in every year, you might as well build a permanent thing that does that, right? Which I guess is what this is IT could be, but actually about the time you build an enormous bloody time with all the seats once a year.

just build a permanent structure, right comes use in the off season for missile enius plus I mean, this isn't really a color um it's like a medium .

mission .

but like yeah but yes, so inDiana farmers policy, named after the inDiana farmers mutual insurance company, who uses gar field as its mass.

Leo.

I bet they paid like five dollars in like nineteen thirty two for and they've ve just written off the .

vacuum since now.

Why do they use guard to this? Why not a good question.

Why did they cause Garfield lives in inDiana? No, he.

that can I fuse to the .

ana?

I'm not proof. IT, where is show us the long for .

birth certificate?

And one I was also a kind of elements of like a of john grusha James. Everything here where it's like the inDiana as mutual insurance company is will kill you in the sense that's like a probably like a multibillion dollar corporations somehow is just like extensively and like you know grew out of like two guys and dangerous being like, uh, bury my money in this bombing, but like now is like this kind of terrifying thing that has like tendrils all over the world that extends from inDianapolis and is now like having a guy beaten ten to death in a back. Alyn calloo, somehow you .

so yeah, they actually have a big Garfield maScotte who .

hangs out in .

the stadium. The mosque of capital is a Garfields ACE.

The creator of Garfield is a resident of an. marian.

Sorry, jim Davis, as far as I know, as Normal.

only at the only one we can trust is heath Cliff.

He did. He did draw john dying dog come that one time. So maybe that noral.

that's a good, that's a good guard field right there.

We can we can find that dev, if you just google what don't come, but like .

find a lot of gulf .

ds that there are .

kind of media was a good the .

thing is I find golf, edd, very, very german to like the kind of absurdum of putting like golfito out of order or Garfields out Garfield. So it's just john talking to himself. My favorite was the one that there's a panel.

There's one panel of garlic, but golf hil is being flung upside down. Tea post out of a window. And if you tag that on is the third panel of any golf eld comic is still funny.

So yeah, this is, this is the court calls you. I guess, again, as of today, IT kind of looks like old boston garden. I like you a lot.

This is a very handsome building, is not a ship from tropical, kind of which I big fan so .

I really like the the ticket windows here, I assure these have been ordered up because I put h fact back there or something but they got like, you know, the grading .

is all corns yes, of course yeah.

But it's it's interesting on the work's progress. Administration sort of invented a new order of columns where the can functionally .

there an ancient greek city state for like a week .

yeah exactly where the capital is like a corn stock is supposed to, you know, the ancient greek, whatever .

the american. I feel a little bit pay also by proxy.

That's good um yeah. So this is a multi purpose arena. IT could be set up for ice hockey, basketball could be set up for concerts.

Um again, this is built by the work's progress administration in one thousand nine hundred and thirty to replace the ninety nine seven livestock pavilion. IT formally was the host of the inDiana pacers and no less than seven ice hockey teams, none doing ice hockey in inDiana. And .

god, I think this is clear, this point to to everyone accept indian's it's .

a lot Better than doing in loss vagues fuck .

the nigh stand.

Yes sixty .

eight hundred seats .

when can figure for basketball? Sixty two hundred for ice hockey. You know today it's just not big or rather enough for professional athletics. They all move down down to the game bridge firehouse um they still use that for smaller events and concerts and like high school sports and stuff like that. Ah they hosted the beetles in one nine hundred and sixty .

four well yeah so the .

recording .

for IT was just solid, screaming as every vee's love that recording was.

Um yes, this is a pretty nice venue in my opinion. Now we have to talk about fire .

inspections. I I desire this car. A, let me.

let me drive this around if .

listening IT. Okay, everybody got mad at me, right? I had a new compromise thing that's gonna only seventy percent of the people, let me be a fireman, show you, get the car. I think they give you a gun. Definitely have .

a badge .

that.

like P. A, I don't think, Carry firearms.

They got a friend here, moved on. The right of the first seems to be enjoying as well pocky ing hit that White all yes.

So for any .

buildings like a large venue, fire inspections are important .

to conducted large.

These inspections are the preview of the fire martial. During these inspections, of course, you're looking for anything that might cause a fire or which may impede evacuation of a fire were to occur like, you know how once a crap stored in a stairwell.

if have emergency exit, yeah.

padlocked doors improperly stored, flamb les or whatever. Right now, fire inspections are important, but they only work if you actually have the manpower, the war with all, to do them.

One of the first things that any fire department facing budget, precious cuts.

yeah, yeah. This stuff, yes, exactly.

In indian apple is in one thousand sixty three. There is a problem with both of these. The indian apple fire department had shortened the work week from seventy hours to a leisurably sixty three hours.

Lazy .

read, read the thing about a house for work, a ice hours for leisure, another race hours for leisure.

Yeah, exactly. That's that's basically how much the french work. This resulted in the shortage of mankind.

Fire police do not Carry weapons. That took a lot .

job though. They're basically .

just glow by traffic cops.

Is the car look like I google uh.

it's yeah and I think it's municipal base, but there there are .

some that like pretty sick .

fire police a lot of that's .

pretty I old like ninety S U V S disaster. Okay, yeah.

that's nice. You just know that in the U. K, it's a hatch bahtra.

a nineteen ninety suburban that you have to drive for work. incredible. Fuck the climate, this are all that's .

A A doesn't different baby.

then, so they can put IT up on the screen. I'm not gonna remember to do that and I were not going to.

uh, now. Furthermore.

the fire .

chief in indian apple is believed that because the color sim was state owned property, IT was outside of his jurisdiction, even though he was inside .

the city limits have some kind of state?

yes. Thus the inspections were rare and only cursy. Only usually they just inspected that right before the state fair, even though the collegium was leased to promoters and held events through at the year. Now you might ask, okay, what's the risk of fire in .

a fire proof policy and you can burn .

A I haven't seen to me, it's all made brick. And you know.

right was ice hockey. You got ice in that. catch.

I .

don't. 好的。

e in in the color sem, of course, they serve concessions. Recessions .

needs to be heated of burning.

Yeah, this is about, this is about, I want to say, four miles north of the city center. There's no municipal gas line out here. So the heat comes from prop, in which needs to be stored. Where's there a lot of small room for storage in a colom.

the .

ATS.

Now .

do .

you see .

the problems? E, and i'm just not thinking about IT.

So for everyone, anyone who uses the asa in adult in north leds, there's a space underneath asdep that's called by the staff, called the void. Because when they built the the a, they built the ash flat. But IT was built on a, on A A plot that was on on a slight slope and avoid the bit that you could actually access without stupid headlights.

IT was kind of like basically fine, the use of a storing stuff. But they also saw a stuff in the void, which was the bit where you open the door going. There were no lights and IT disapearance .

off into infinity under, can you can. And still this bag, like crisp in the void.

that is literally what they did. yes. And what I love is there could be anything in there since nothing was built in presubscribed nineties. So yeah so if you're using aster adult, just aware that you might be stood on above anything and IT could be flaming IT could be ah .

who knows so shout yeah .

have been adult by this .

information.

So you know there is a problem that may develop here um we'll talk about here the commercial which is located in under I le thirteen i'm just gonna ad the caption here this is an artist conception of the approximated dispositions of materials in the concession commercial at the colloquium cording to an eyewitness, a radiant heat device one fired by prop in gas was used to heat proposed popcorn in a storage bin.

Not the popcorn hater you .

supposed to serve.

man, not betray him.

这 身份卡。

to nearby .

take。

Feeling like emotionally like the popcorn heater has betrayed its purpose.

I don't know why I just immediately my mind just put you into a barry and you are just dressing deadlight largest and just dressing dad like so like sheep is looking, of course, machine.

I know your pop. That's the king of.

H, I must be delicious. Yeah, still over a nearby a .

tank of prop in apparently became overheated and the safety well was popped, causing the guest of flow from the well in the .

tank to fall over. No.

I about one hundred pound. Take proper in five.

five, five second. yeah.

Another prop. Popcorn storage men. Number three here was being warned by an electric cone type peat element.

right? okay. So as you describing this, I understand a little bit like you to describe in this. I'm visualizing like six or seven different, like kind of git like weirds heating the instructions of .

varying types and sic .

is poin .

popcorn 是。

Popcorn.

if that like that. There was a point in the pencil vania state first history where you could have got, like anthropology corn, I believe.

this head of india .

dominance that.

I mean, call fired pizzas, still a thing that single handily holding up the pennsylvanian anterior industry.

Grif, yeah, yeah.

Also still some home heating.

So all these .

things are women and gigglin and fall and over here in this, in this void underneath the seat. Thirteen.

yes, what disaster? Alloweth, I do. Hallow.

epsom.

But why should have the ocean?

And this is on october thirty first. Maybe not order here.

but that's rough. If you get like a blown .

up and you're .

wearing a cos jam, you know you to go IT sometime .

shortly before the events. We are about to describe a manager, open the door of the commercial, saw a thick fog inside, close the door in the world.

employees to get out. Just put this here with the rest .

of the .

proper .

in do do. One man went in to try to stop the league, failed miserably. I don't know what happened to, i'm gona be honest.

I have a guess. I have a guess like that. That's rough. I mean, footing trying to do the noble react to diverse and man, yeah.

I works, but it's popcorn exploding around you like.

just like that. And the inDiana metal of honor he went.

Part court reactive vessel, what is this? If not a pressure vessel was a good.

you have to dip the Price, the control rads in. But their corn dogs.

Now I granted the the fresh differential is one to one, but it's a pressure of that. So yea, containing corn reactions.

Uh, no. So now you may ask OK.

why? Why are these things running at all? What's the event? It's not the state fair. It's a separate event which the kalo sim was rented out for. IT was of course, the performance of .

holiday on ice gotta .

suck a little more over this.

This is a very long running.

This is what you you get for doing Christa .

before thanksgiving.

It's not even Christmas theme. M is the interesting point. No, they do .

like a nation. I believe.

I think they have done a quantity show yeah, i'm not super familiar with the ice show scene, but I believe this was actually the first one.

And I was, yeah, this is on october thirty first.

one thousand nine hundred. And sixty three is the first show of an eleven day run of holiday on ice. And now this shows starts little late, but not sold late, as to cause an up or IT starts to eight forty five incident of eight thirty. So the show was supposed to wrap up around seven fifteen instead of eleven as scheduled.

Charles SHE planted front there.

Yeah, very good moving standing next that you put .

that picture .

up if you want.

There's four thousand, three hundred and twenty seven spectators. Or for opening night with propane slowly filling .

the community.

And now at eleven six.

god, as the show .

is about six.

we pop the out of some corn. So we pop a more corn, more like to a greater extent than has ever previously been. Pop.

the corn pop.

Got the corn pop heard around round the world?

Yes, yeah. Just as finally began at i'll thirteen, there was enormous boom just underneath the box seats, a seven hundred square foot section of the seating and floor flew up into the air and came back down, smashing a load bearing wall below which collapsed and took out another five hundred square final floor with the chase.

Is like a motor, like a changed tor.

And in amongst all of this is just gAllenberger half cook popcorn.

raining body parts and corn dogs took a moment for .

anyone to figure out what had happened. Many of the people who are not directly viewing the exploded stands thoughts that since there had been small pirate technic as part of the performance, maybe this was actually part of the show until I looked and saw the destroy sense.

People thought there were their hair, like immediately, like golf, like stretch on one side, would like the the comedy, like daffy duck be spin around and head cheese s apart the show, or 也 做 这些。

IT was so clear, there was a horrible accident. People were throwing across the ice. They were crushed under a big concrete blocks. They were bangle in a big pita debris. IT was very ugly.

Behold, this is also, this is, this is family show, right? Yes.

very much, very much .

so .

now right was general .

have been, I ask this topically to god could IT had not have been to show that was like, you know, for unlikeable losers, right? Like people that you wouldn't miss. Why why like they are like the completely blameless like ah you know, is a benefit we did for the local kids. Why is why does this never happen to the letting agents? National convention.

november, november, only the good die Young.

I mean, you joke about that, but the number of train crashes, the number formative train crashes .

in the U. K. That involved like a holiday .

train full of children, drunk driver .

actually.

So yeah, yeah, this train is full of nuns and orphans. Let let's give IT .

to drunk uncle bob .

that's uncle bob.

So only despite the the explosions is an a of calm auditory oria right or in the in the colloquium um the holiday and on ice band in fact keeps playing to keep everyone .

calm over my god .

today yeah I start to evacuate in an orderly fashion.

That's on the second I was .

the second explosion happens.

Oh no. mr. presidents. Second, a second popcorn reactor has struck the IOS state.

This time there was a forty foot ball contained entirely within the color sim. They wait.

This was october nineteen hundred and sixty three. Yes, they would have had to tell Kennedy about this. And Kennedy was like, dam, that's crazy. By the way, everything still good to me to go to dallas next month, right?

Surprising how often that comes up in the forecasts.

Yeah, right. I don't know. It's it's like nine, eleven, right?

I can relate stuck because I know the dates of the cannot dy assinniboin Stephen king book. I can relate stuff from logically to IT heavy birthday. By the way, the presidents been shot up. Yes.

the the debris with many trapped underneath was now also on fire.

just like trapped on the concrete block。 Like, well, this can't get any worse. The concrete .

block is now on fire, on fire. Yes, lots of people were buried underneath concrete slaves waning, five to ten tones.

Walk again, again. Why can .

this never happen to like a trumping know?

Because there's never know of them there.

I point.

yeah, yeah. I be embarrassing if like an empty section.

why, why, why this? And why not trump on ice? Or I I guess in one hundred and sixty three equivalent. So George.

walls on ice in .

a long about world. Singing the word actually a beautiful controller, I don't know, like it's really technically impressive.

This now, this fire dies down pretty quickly because that is being fuelled by the prophets, know, sort of. But IT does .

burn a lot of people, least that .

burns of clean.

no out less. You're not wearing aster at .

the sixties. Everyone's wearing Polly.

Yeah, you are going up like like .

a great street. So it's very apparent, pretty early on, that a lot of people are dead or injured, right? And off duty firefighter called the india le's fire department within minutes of the explosion, saying there are probably fifty to one hundred people injured in this, in his estimation, police were on the scene by eleven, fifteen, shortly followed by the media, and only then by the fire department.

Budget cuts again. Yeah, sixty three or work. We really cuts again. In response times.

the american red cross in the salvation, an army also dispatch personnel. Civil defense arrived .

on the scene in this for salvation, try to save me. Let me die. Put me back in.

put me back in.

Put you, put that contain back on top .

of me more.

Weight, you had civil defense, you countless other rescue and relief organizations just hear about this, and they sent everything they can, right?

Oh, there, what resulted .

was enormous traffic m .

of emergency equipages ment, yes, is a skill.

Gold, silver, bronze is actually very important to matter. This stuff extremely carefully.

And you can sort of see this in this picture. This is inside the auditory, and you can see a lot of ambuLances. You can see a toe truck here. You can see a probably a police car over here, that sort of block in a way out.

a lot of people milling around. Yeah like no clear. Yeah, that's an aftermath type job. That's what the S. B. Accident investigation board.

the situation OK OK, please for me to post more than this. I would all be bringing vehicles in here. I would be getting people, I be human, training people in and out so have clear working space because also you doing a excavation of material and ah yeah yeah anyone races in the .

color um I mean the first biggest problem was the police right yeah they .

had more officers on the .

duty than Normal because IT was halloween right all the kids are getting in the mission. Yes.

people putting food in .

the six and exactly. IT was like, what was the thousand, nine hundred and .

sixty drug choice?

S, S, in my thousand and sixty Candy, please. I think a bunch .

of racist .

children. What's the one? What's the one that gave all the nasty birth effects? Um so of course they they rush the color and they park all their squad cars at the sort of john .

I angle typical of yeah it's one of the most like offensive things just a bit like i'm parked like a seventy degree angle across like three handed out spaces and the bike lane i'm going to leave part of four and a half hours yes.

this blocked access for everyone .

else yeah you've got nothing .

in of vehicles .

and personal those vehicles and personnel, but made IT to the scene. There was very little that could be done for anyone but the most accessible victims.

What one of the more satisfying videos i've seen on youtube is an F D N Y engine physically moving an N Y P D car that was blocking IT out of the way. I've just have like idle crushing IT and pushing a the side you .

piece a should the head of my way. Um the debris was of course too heavy to lift by hand, so police radioed for two trucks at mobile cranes and the tow truck showed up a whole ship load of them and they were of no use. They needed to lift the debris, not drag IT around, and potentially .

into more people are dragging the like six time great block off my legs, just searing the whole like low half of my body .

across the ice to say you .

get turned into an on cook smash burger .

um finally, by eleven thirty five, police from neighboring speed way I don't know if you can call speed way and neighboring ing municipality. It's entirely surrounded by indian apples um you they managed to locate and a mobile crane which was then given the world's slowest police escort to the side of the disaster, arriving at twelve fifty A M. And then I got stuck in the traffic. M.

of course, we're nearly two hours correctly from all of the time when this were nearly two hours now after the event, right?

Two hours after the event. The mobile crane makes IT there here. IT is over here. It's it's on tracks because this one thousand nine hundred and sixty three is not what in the .

new ones you can go fast um course yeah.

The coroner of marine county arrived at eleven forty five pm right? He managed to fight his way through the ambuLances and fire trucks and heavy equipment, civil defensive vehicle, salvation army canteen trucks, so on and so forth.

And he's like, like unch ching, his way through chaplains, like the opening of airplane. I provided important pastora to the pal I was.

I was thinking of separate scene from airplane where they dispatch all the emergency vehicles and they have like the but the area .

stairs to try.

That's what's coming into the area here.

You knew the country right, is heavy rescue squad, low, tiny rock.

IT got one. T I was .

shiner's night.

actually. H my god on the ground. No.

我操 你 还 吃。

You know, he, when the coroner shows up, he is the first physician on .

scene he is to do, like, is the doctor in the house of its two hours?

Lsa, yeah, yeah, drink. IT.

it's only eleven forty five. OK, he's there. The print has arrived yet .

on students forty five minutes to stop. Pretty people died by that point. Who would have not? Otherwise.

what doing would be like dad d dad ad.

he he sees two over work to trios. The only thing you can do is give, like the trap of victims who are not yet dead, some comfort in the form of lots .

of morphine. I'll do IT um .

you know until like the crane showed up an additional um um physicians um you know IT wasn't until like twelve fifty when they could set up a makeshift mark. Now conveniently, they were on an ice rink. So you.

well, that's convenient. Yeah 吗?

Yeah, exactly least one .

aspect. This was well planned by accident.

By accident. The makeup Morgan, foreground, of this photo, about seven, fifty, the police chief indian apple, finally showed up to the scene, having also fought his way through other and emergency vehicles, set up a command post to finally get all these various relief organizations organized. Yeah.

turns out that important. You can't just like to throw things at the thing and hope that .

works itself out. yeah. So we finally have traffic. All right, so here, here is the a calcium here. Here is the Jason building, of which at the time was known as the cattle barn.

I am I seeing a salvation army canteen directly in front of the size of the explosion.

Yes, they, they, they got in really early and started making coffee.

Nice of them. I have some suggestions for what they should do with that. I the fuck and solvent me and I wasn't expecting to come out of this episode with a second reason.

I'm so .

you don't get .

union busters um the heg people, they will take you unused a surplus clothing though I don't know.

I know couple of view scandals in the process.

Yeah they do that.

All right。 So there's this solid, massive advertising cy vehicles blocking all routes in and out of the policy.

No question.

There's no coordination between any relief for organizations. The chief of police takes control, sets up an actual command post in the fairs administration of building that's that's down here or over here. But which of these images are looking at? He ordered the fairground sealed off until they could figure out what the hell was going on. While local relief organizations were still boarding the site with ambuLances, bustles, track .

records, these things are piling up.

Like IT said, like the.

this is like kline starter. This is like every fucking county just has that, like volunteer of fire service, that is, just has a no yeah funeral .

homes are even sending in horses. There are dozens of cars for voltore ous volunteers from, like civil defence, from, like, you know, uh, got you get rid, cross and .

cell ation army to funeral homes. A lot of them were like ambuLance services also at this point yeah in fact they like form of the ambuLance evolved out of the house as they they ran a few as like so called combination cars for a long time that's .

convenient if you die on route.

Exact change yeah it's just a little .

role like a like a bossy just roll IT from like interfusion al from ambuLance.

I believe the army was saturating the .

area army army broke ts solvent .

army bracts regular army .

brackets mine.

This is, I think, a big win for a colossal order. The publishers of city skylines. You thought emergency vehicle traffic jams were fake? No.

they are very real though. This reminds me of top down video game. I used supply the emergency series, I think like nine one first responders. I used to love that game.

love that fucking game.

Um didn't never really got to like a proper equal thing, like a free supply one now. But yet like large part of IT is there's a gap in the market for that kind of like incident common management R T S game. You know .

the local churches were sending priests .

and ministers and cars. Oh, I was joking about every denomination .

is represented.

Yes, to say that we found a one, the one like guy .

bell.

Um so the chief of the police is like, okay.

we just on the radio like if you ve got the concrete blocks off the guys yeah and and some poor indian apple is firefighter is like no but I did learn that the temple bells reflect the impermanent of all human life. So cheap I got no attachments over the the .

chief of police at the command post um finally says, are right here's what we're gonna triage in the cattle barn. Cattle barn is just a open space, is not like fully like dirt on the floor crap, but they do put cattle in there for the state fair. But IT wasn't the state fair that there's no cows in there.

Um you know we're going to do that. We're going to move the police vehicles out of the arena and away from the area. We are going to have a one way loop for ambuLances through the cattle barn to pick people up.

The traffic design is a good student.

is a good system and it's like actually convenient sight for IT.

Yeah indoors, it's been closed now because you can drive vehicles in and out of the building, might believe there were specific gates for .

the entrance and exit can .

draw a nice clean diagram of IT too.

So I guess I very quickly to the in in the google image youve, you've got on screen roles. There's loads a car parking space. I'm guessing that wasn't necessarily quite as extensive that IT might just be not open fields.

Maybe I do not think so um but I don't know. I just think like yeah .

if he's saying doit in the barn I IT was covered IT was the right space to do that like they didn't have a lot big open concrete of time because the thing I have been saying is, okay, all your vehicles fucked off over there. You can be red in circles and okay, just leave all you go away and I will come for you if you're needed if this, this pizarro glues brother's kind of, with all the life, some people turn me up .

in the site .

completely.

They, they, yes, they moved the police cars out. They let the mobile crane in the arena. Finally, after making the space force, they could finally pick up these big concrete blocks, and they moved the salvation army canteen truck into the collision. For, you know, the coffee, I think .

I feel very gry.

But they're still further disorganization occurring, right? So while there are being bombarded, ambuLances.

no man's coordinating.

which there was some instruction. There's a vague idea OK. We're gona baLance this between the hospitals. We're going to there's a lot of hospitals available, specifically the smart hospital was very well prepared to receive quite a lot of victims of this, though no one was really prepared because no one thought to contact the hospitals .

before and a has been an incident quality disaster read up of the because that you have talked blocking the entrance.

So uh most ambuLance drivers just brought people to the nearest hospital, which was preparatory an hospital um which was pretty full up and not really prepared to to handle a lot of people. They ve got one hundred and twenty victims well the semi in hospital, which was Better prepared, only received twenty seven. Okay, there were like eight more hospitals in the guard victims and a lot of them where I just not prepared forward at all. You know they they only found out there is an emergency .

when you know there .

were fifty abubus showing up people with dramatic ad injuries.

It's like fifty dracula's have showed up in .

the um yes covered .

in fake blood and real blood yeah you yeah.

Then bean began the grim job of identifying the dead. A the mork was set up, and they installed temporary rubber flooring size to prevent the friends and relatives of the deceased from slipping on the ice and the frozen pools of blood raising.

raising hand. How many times do you think that? And before they .

put in .

the temporary this.

hopefully multiple .

family members .

got to say, I imagine all the emergency workers are .

yeah can you got to have .

like the the reverse sand boni, come to have no of the ice? Yes.

one of yeah exactly um now the first the first people came to identify .

the deceased around three o'clock in the morning, by seven thirty in the morning there is actually align at the door um from the amount of people who managed to force their personal vehicles of emergency vehicles and at .

least is like five hundred different chains and ministers and shit to try and comfort .

them yeah everyone's that know there's like there's like forty five hundred people there to give .

last rights yeah it's like many dead but like none of them want to help yeah .

now they went the extra heaven.

I got so .

many works, i'm .

pretty sure yeah so many circles .

I like the cathode is a bonus episodes come.

Um now um five propound tanks were discovered in the wreckage um belonging to the midwest gas CoOperation. These were removed from the scene as evidence, but with caveats. Will get to that in the next slide um um by 4PPM the next day all victims had been identified safe for two of them。

All survivors had been removed from the building. Emergency workers had all left, save for a few state police guarding the site. Uh by the way, there had been uh jurisdiction tional conflict this whole time between the indian apple's police and the state police running this a year.

IT was gradually handed over to the state police as the night wore on. In the end, eighty one people were dead and over four hundred were injured. And in the confusion something strange had happened.

Oh no. Did someone forget to do the S N S N? Like, did someone forget to do the search and search and rescue? And that just still like guys under the thing.

though, someone was searching, but not for, not for the, not for the victims dog. Several lawyers had managed to infect ate the blast site mira, minutes after IT happened. I don't .

know how that phone call went bit dropped in.

Yeah.

we need, we need you to drive IT like a hundred and twenty miles an hour in the sholder pass like a like buses, get in there and start suing people.

Yeah, the first people on the scene, the lawyers .

like a legal first responder. I'm like a legal observer at the process. I've got like a flourescent Green hat that like serving people. There are .

their parley's. yeah. These lawyers come in, they climbed over the records. They ignored the dead, the injured in the dying, and went straight for the prophets ank, and remove crucial parts, the valves and the hoses, and so on. And so for, oh my.

I I need inDiana cops to learn how to set up a cordon ever, maybe like french for line.

They were .

stopped by the state police, and they were rejected from the arena without the evidence that they tried to steal. But the damage had been done.

you know, one loafer honor guys had the other one braced against the proper in tank to pull the house of.

The evidence had been thread and completely .

tampered with. good.

So these lot do we know? I might be to shot your fox rose, but I know whose lawyers were these, these.

the sites lawyers. I am not sure I had difficulty.

Mysterious s .

kind of lawyers.

like he said.

they represented an indian. Apple is law firm, which early obvious. I don't know who they were in the employer. I didn't I for russia.

mass.

Rogue state lawyers just pop in out of nowhere. What team?

The police recovered the evidence. The tanks were sent to purdue university for analysis. What do you know? The tanks had been stored next to a heat source. The gas inside expanded. The safety valve did its job, invented the excess gas of vast quantity approachin built up in a commercial, and exploded the box seats when he found the ignition an source. The national liquid petroleum gas association attempted to dispute this by saying, well, what if there was a steam league or a carbon oxi league?

I really need you don't really that's the kind of commitment to like evil. You don't see in as many industry concerns outside of the like oil and gas a industry .

these days. I like tobacco, like.

In general though, your average like corporate lobby's for the thing that kills people accidentally won't go as hard as this intel late in court but like in publi C2Be lik e, yeah you know maybe it's just fucked in the swamp .

gas this is from, like the letter they said they seem like even they didn't really believe themselves. But we have the letter.

the bunch of like prop in valves falling out of my pockets. Yes, this could have been anything. No, yeah.

A grand jury was convened to a sign blame they. Indeed, no less than seven individuals, the inDianapolis fire chief state fire martial, three individuals from the of the gas distributor discount gas CoOperation.

would not buy my gas from them. No amazing business, the general .

and concessions manager for the policy, and were both and died, and everyone started with, through legal proceeding, manage to shift the blame around addict enough that they're all acquitted.

就是 get inDiana town。 I in particular.

the manager of the color sim, managed to argue that he had no idea he needed a permit for indoor storage of propane at hate. The propane been there in full view of inspectors for over ten years at this point. Come on.

To good.

great. So ultimately, new procedures were put into place to ensure propane was not stored indoors at the urania. The color seen would be regularly inspected by the fire department. Going forward, there were about of four point six million dollars in settlements from the gas company, about seventy million dollars and insurance claims overall. Um in the color sim well, I managed to reopen IT nearly six weeks.

Jesus, I know, I guess you just post some more concrete.

No hoes IT down. But like this area, a roped off.

put fucking a bunker.

and that, like IT.

they fully prepared, lonely, a few months holiday. I return the following year .

despite of them looking.

Yeah, despite fears that people would be afraid to go to the performance now, they sold out the arena .

that tracks inDiana strong.

Yeah, not too much later than that. The beetles played the collisions.

InDiana, weird.

yeah. As a result of the um as a result of the explosion the indian apple is capitals hockey team move to since this .

is this is a beauty grave sort of like consequence that yes, exactly.

but this is the worst thing to happen at what is the worst disaster in inDiana history. But there will never be another major fail major incident at the indian apple state fair um until inadequately secured stage collapse in two thousand eleven in a thunderstorm and killed a lot of people in the audience.

And also stage hand, I remember to be on the cake.

No country music. I do remember there .

being a stage yeah good grave.

They're not good yeah so .

we learned a lot then uh yeah .

yeah that's that's the structural issues .

at the india can tell columns verstegen are way over, not attached that a new style of column, you know, ironic dorax. Uh, currently an american. And whatever this is.

this is like the duke was always want to do experiment with ankled columns. So.

oh my god but yeah.

that is the story of the inDiana state fair explosion of nineteen sixty three. Or stay fair policy.

And the was fine.

Thank you. I think what we learn .

put down some .

thought some, what mats before you have you .

more or nice shit.

That's true. Yeah, yeah. Maybe, maybe store stuff in the void. Fuck the salvation army. A reason .

my main .

lesson .

is do not store prop in indoors.

do not store proper to be an actable .

out there. But yeah.

always store protein in .

a well ventilated space away from .

popcorn maker.

Oh yeah, don't store. Next the popcorn .

maker or the debt. understood.

How can you have good?

Well, I was absolutely horrifying. Um yeah, cranky. I suppose we have a signal of this .

podcast called safety. third. All there will, there is your problem, hosts, and also guests who are present, right? No, no, no or not.

no. Well, not as life or death is some of the subsides to safety. Third, I hope these two brief anaconda lumination, the disaster, so called small business that americans claim to love so much time.

For instance, you appear to have some kind of rat king of dogs here.

bad. Say, he took me a while when I saw this picture. Is this two dogs, or just one really .

fucked their dog? What's going on? I mean, i'm already happy because I can see dogs, but but also where the ash.

sort of the biblical .

accurate .

dog g king.

I previously work as an environmental consulting, creating reports assessing the environmental risk of a property. During the sale in october of twenty twenty, I traveled alone to a fairly remote small factory and michigan, which did plastic injection mold.

Uh sounds like the the the opening to an extremely well reviewed narrative. The game.

yeah.

we masked a .

picture on the, on the, on the right, the.

they were housing old for chords there, very fluffy es. Well.

not as intensive .

of process as other manufacturing. This process doesn't volvo the use of huge complex machines applying eight thousand psi to make plastic parts from pellets. Now, my first red flag was a trump flag. Actually, there was strong across the front of the factory, at least six feet by ten feet, and sized. I was, I was expecting a typical light manufacturing facility. But you can imagine my surprise when the husband and wife, others, let me through, let me through rooms full of ugly furniture to their bedroom, where a trump rally was playing on television.

To the bedroom to fuck them there.

A lot of is a lot of problems here. That is one of them. But also, yes, they lived in the factory, which was a converted shop school.

Doesn't lot going on here already.

the median american voter somehow?

Yeah yeah.

Venturing outside, I discovered they had four dogs, not mean guard dogs, but some big fluffy ones and tiny .

campers is definitely dogging is something, the stay that things going on here. The dogs are metaphor, or.

yes, like silent hill, the dog is a massive feel, kind of like loss of connection. No, yeah.

They then proceeded to let all four dogs run around the active production floor, where the giant and very old machines were Operating, including to twenty five or more open drip pans of hydrology. oil.

Leave the dogs alone. I'm not. No, no.

Should not. All dogs in space?

No, you are. Fuck and stupid. Man, yeah. Keep god there.

Around thirty, fifty five gallon and drums with random chemicals labelled on the side. And I asked for the purpose of these chemicals, and he stated he bought the all action. Unless they .

were all mislabeled at the .

chemical, they were cool.

Feels like a money a lot .

Operation for me every every time I try to understand trumps people. I learned some something like this, and I just slipped further from my grass again.

I would probably go out of the chemicals auction .

advice of chemicals though.

That sounds fun. I D just is the best. nick.

I voted for a woman who .

lost same .

thing I do every election show time. We don't talk .

about that.

In fact, there were huge amounts of random equipment he had bought at auction with no discernable purpose.

You absolutely with laying .

flash harding.

yes. I wonder how those dogs .

are doing now that .

had a second small business .

disaster I inspected involved the car dealership with a large auto.

He went by the name of john taliban. Repairs .

typically pumped their drains or oil water, although repair places typically pump their drains or oil water. Separators gona say that's what that's supposed to read regularly. As a lot of use, the oils flow to the floor drains in the repair back.

Most I have been to have done this cleaning annually, if not more frequently. The manager I was interrogating seemed to be wildered when I asked about the frequency of cleaning. IT had not been done since he started in one thousand ninety seven, which was the year I was born.

It's your twin. The oil is your twin. It's the same age as you.

Furthermore, the new and used oil tanks were in one room. I refused to step in as the leaking oil was several inches deep, useless ly covered with rags and cardboard.

Are they trying to create a configuration like IT? We just toss the .

flaming stuff in that room.

the fire room. Yeah.

yeah. He's put this over here with the rest of the fire. The oil lake was so bad that I was keeping through the center black walls into the adjoining rooms.

Oh god.

But I was appalled with what I saw. As someone who cares even a little about the environment, there is no guarantee they have to do anything to fix or clean this, especially not now. The facility had also never bothered to clean up the leaks from the historic ground storage. Thanks, which is probably still polluting .

the groundwater to this day.

Now I work with the ongoing engineering disaster that is nipa, the national environmental protection act, I believe, is what that is. But I am glad you've seen many wild and interesting things in america's backroom at this job.

See no killing the back room. I ve been .

here since the first episode. I appreciate you all very much from.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So thank I no partly finds the idea of the flaming stuffing humorous, but also, I suspect that building is no longer as intact.

Ting IT was, we thought these rooms by flammability to love us. SHE is.

well, I was safety. third. Our next episode will be on your noble. Does anyone have many commercials .

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