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Lizzie O'Leary: 特朗普和马斯克之间的公开冲突表明他们关系已经破裂。本期节目将探讨在没有马斯克的情况下，Doge会如何发展。 Makena Kelly: 尽管马斯克离开了，但Doge仍然存在，并且正在变得制度化。许多Doge成员仍然在政府部门工作，并且还在招聘新成员。Doge的重点已经从削减开支转向数据集中化。Vought可能会负责重建工作，并可能通过重建来实施Project 2025。虽然Doge声称他们的工作是为了提高效率，但实际上可能破坏了系统，并在公民自由方面产生问题。我个人认为，Doge的永久存在很难改变，政府的文化已经改变，这可能会使硅谷的人更愿意参与其中。马斯克虽然发推表示后悔，但推文中'一些'这个词表明他保留了未来批评特朗普的权利。总的来说，现在有更多的人渴望以政府前所未有的方式部署技术，这可能会带来深远的影响。

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Elon Musk has ridden off into the sunset acrimoniously (maybe), but the Department of Government Efficiency is just getting started. Will DOGE continue wildly cutting or is something even more chaotic coming next? 

Guest: Makena Kelly), senior writer at WIRED. 

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